Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I have re-read the article previously directed to.

Also, a comment from its author to Tobias Stone's.

"I wrote this essay mainly to organise thoughts in my head, and to share them with others. The aim is to provoke thought and debate, and I am glad I have done that. I don’t claim to be right, but do claim the right to put forward ideas for others to discuss. So I thought it would be appropriate to respond to some of the many interesting comments people have made. I don’t expect or need everyone to agree with me. In fact, if everyone agreed with me I think I’d have achieved nothing beyond being another voice in the echo chamber."


An interesting reflection.

we are very lucky to have NIGEL FARAGE FIGHTING OUR CORNER
TRUMP SAID HE MAY MAKE HIM THE TRADE MINISTER FOR EU TRADE DEAL

Trump and Farage are similarly repulsive.

Californians want to cecede the Union due to Trump being elected.

Bigot. The definition of a bigot is a person who is prejudiced, or intolerant of those who are different.
Example: A person who thinks all men are better than all women is an example of a bigot.

What about wimmin who think they are better than men?

Same rools? lol

It's ok for an individual to think they are better than other people. The problem is where someone thinks that all of a certain group are better than another group.

Except for a few loonies, no one takes the superiority angle seriously.

Everyones different.

Its not a matter of thinking one group is better then another group its
what one of the groups beliefs and customs are, and do they infringe on
the others beliefs and culture, particularly if one of them are from an alien
continent with different culture and religion.


Haystack 74600

"Trump and Farage are similarly repulsive"


Without Nigel Farage there would never have been a referendum, no one would
know what went on in the corridors of Brussels, immigration would still be taboo
to talk about, and without Farage the snake oil salesman would
still be in power spewing his lying deceiving spiel.

Why didn't your hero stick around to clear up the mess?

Dumbo,

Post 74595.

Are you guilty of projection?


Or has your spring snapped?

fred 74607

"Why didn't your hero stick around to clear up the mess?"


What mess would that be?, we won't know what the situation is until the
negotiations are done, T.May is making all the right noises, and Nigel Farage
is still around, he's still an MEP, until we leave the EU.

From the FT:

Here are seven ways in which life could change under a President Donald Trump.

1. Trade

Mr Trump has opposed the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership deal and called for fundamental changes to the Nafta pact with Mexico and Canada. Such policies appear to have boosted his appeal throughout the rust belt of the Midwest, with huge consequences for the election’s ultimate outcome. He has also threatened to impose punitive 45 per cent tariffs on goods from China, stoking fears of a trade war.

2. Foreign policy

Mr Trump has said that Mr Obama’s deal with Iran, which seeks to prevent the Islamic Republic from attaining nuclear weapons, would be dismantled or at least restructured. While Mr Obama began his term by setting out a vision of a world without nuclear weapons, Mr Trump has said he would be open to both Japan and South Korea developing nuclear arsenals. He has also questioned the US’s treaty commitments to Nato allies that do not pay their own way while suggesting a much closer relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

3. Healthcare

Mr Trump has signed up to the Republican pledge that Mr Obama’s signature Obamacare reforms must be “repealed and replaced”. He has not set out a comprehensive alternative but says he will encourage competition between markets in different states.

4. Tax policy

Mr Trump has promised the biggest tax revolution since Ronald Reagan, pledging to cut taxes across the board. He says no American business would pay more than 15 per cent of their profits in tax, compared with a current maximum of 35 per cent. The top rate of tax would fall from 39.6 per cent as the Republican reduces the number of tax brackets.

5. Supreme Court

For many political activists in the US this could be the biggest consequence of the election. With the highest court in the land currently split 4-4 between conservative and more liberal judges, Hillary Clinton’s supporters had hoped that a ninth justice chosen by a Democratic president would shift the balance, possibly for a generation. Instead, Mr Trump faces relatively easy confirmation of his pick by a Republican Senate and he may also have the opportunity to replace some of the relatively elderly complement of liberal judges.

6. Climate change

Mr Trump has called global warming a hoax invented by China to make US manufacturers uncompetitive and vowed to “cancel” the Paris climate agreement, which built on a deal Mr Obama struck with China. He also says he would stop all US payments for UN global warming programmes.

7. Immigration

This is the issue that excited most passions in the campaign, both among Mr Trump’s supporters and among Hispanic voters eager to prevent him from taking the White House. Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama had backed comprehensive reforms that would give illegal immigrants a chance at full citizenship. Mr Trump has campaigned on his pledge to build a wall on the Mexican border, called for a ban on Muslim immigration and the deportation of 11m unauthorised immigrants. However, he has subsequently made more ambiguous statements, promising instead “extreme vetting” and declining to clarify his precise plans for undocumented immigrants.

One of the greatest song writers of all time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLq7Aqd_H7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5RlDCh9MSA

Is it because they believe it , or that they wish to make you think it's not possible so you vote their way , anyway reputation and plughole come to mind .

all the worlds leaders now want to lick to lick trumps backside .
EU arseholes now pleading for talks DONALD TURN YOUR ARSE TO THEM

EL - don't confuse could with will ..... don't confuse electioneering rhetoric with post-event reality ...... don't take media scaremongering at face value

I have started building a bunker in my garden.