Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Labour in Brexit chaos as senior MP vows to defy Jeremy Corbyn's order to vote against Repeal Bill



By Jack Maidment, Political Correspondent
11 September 2017 • 8:10am




Labour MPs have been warned that following Jeremy Corbyn’s orders and voting against a key piece of Brexit legislation risks plunging the country into chaos.

Caroline Flint, a Labour MP and a former Europe minister, said she will not adhere to the three-line-whip imposed by Mr Corbyn as she urged her colleagues not to try and “kill” the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill.

MPs are due to vote on the Bill tonight with David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, having warned that blocking it would amount to agreeing to a “chaotic” exit from the bloc.




More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/11/labour-brexit-chaos-senior-mp-vows-defy-jeremy-corbyns-order/

Earlier this week, Yanis Varoufakis, the Greek ex-Finance Minister, (who is a bit of a leftie but who we all know and love, especially on QT) advised Theresa May to "by-pass" Michel Barnier to get Brexit talks back on track.

He said that Mr Barnier had no mandate to negotiate on behalf of the EU.

An interesting thought.

Hmmm?

Yes. I think I'm all in favour of by-passing him and getting on with direct one-to-one EU trade talks.

Varoufakis is an interesting character but does like to play games. Barnier was appointed by the EU Commission, so does have instructions to present the EU's demands. Although called a negotiator, he has about as much freedom to negotiate as Goring had at Nuremberg.
There must be another term in french more suitable for his role. Extorqueur sounds about right. Maybe Principal Extorsionnaire. The English have never been very good at this foreign language stuff and simply don't understand. In german it is "ve hav vays to make you understand".

Barnier takes his orders from Big Bertha via brussels.

Nothing, but nothing will be agreed without the nod from Berlin, the other 27 simply don't count.

Agree Max. The term "EU" assumes the other 27 gave the nod in some manner and that they are informed of progress. I suspect the demands were written and agreed in the same way the democrats approved Obama care. "Just vote for it and you will find out what's in it".
As to points of query in the extortion talks, Barnier phones Junkie who says "I'm putting you on hold while I speak to the boss".

UK government confident of winning vote on Brexit legislation - spokesman

LONDON, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Prime Minister Theresa May's government is confident of winning a vote on a major piece of Brexit legislation, due in parliament later on Monday or early Tuesday, May's spokesman said.

Parliament is due to hold a late-night vote on whether to let the central plank of Britain's Brexit plan - the EU withdrawal bill - move to the next stage of the lawmaking process.

Asked whether the government was confident of the outcome, he said: "Yes. We've said this is a hugely important bill in terms of preparing the way for a smooth Brexit for business and the rest of the country, and we encourage all MPs (Members of Parliament) to support it."

Not sure what the product is, but nice logo anyway!

Made in Germany


Made in Switzerland


Made in France


Made in Italy


Made in Spain

Up yours Hilary!

Those were the days I was a big supporter of IBB...mind you in those days the employer wasn't allowed to rip the majority of their population off unlike now.

And now is under the €U yoke Stan...do try to keep up.

Nonsense Max.

Better than being up Farage's backside!, or Theresa's skirts.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, Max. I thought you realised that.

In the interests of fairness, here's some of the things you'll be swapping Mercs and Rolex's for under your new trading relationships...

Made in China


Made by Uncle Sam


And hey, I even found a product to go with your nice logo.

Little Britain

You've been out of the country too long Hilary. Forgotten your heritage and the fine things you used to take for granted.
Forgotten this? - a yuppies car that only Peckham's finest could afford. Ecologically friendly before the EU knew what an ecology was. Healthy also. It encouraged its owners to get out and walk.



And how about this? Finest food known to man. And woman. Legend is that the cornish only became pirates so that they could afford more.



And don't forget about the north. Nothing sexier than seeing your girl enjoy a stick of Blackpool rock. Great defence weapon also if anyone takes her kiss me quick hat too literally. Who wants gooey Swiss chocolate when this is available. You won't find this in your Portofino's.

Dennis Skinner rebels against Jeremy Corbyn as he votes with Tories for Repeal Bill


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/12/dennis-skinner-rebels-against-jeremy-corbyn-votes-tories-repeal/