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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

halifax - 24 Nov 2011 14:30 - 7531 of 21973

Harry why is the ECB more credible than the German government?

HARRYCAT - 24 Nov 2011 14:33 - 7532 of 21973

Because it is a collective responsibilty rather than an individual one. Germany alone can't resolve Euro issues. Euro members collectively may be able to. ECB is not german owned, yet.
EDIT - Not brilliantly explained but you hopefully get my drift. ECB has collective power. Individual countries don't have that strength.

skinny - 24 Nov 2011 14:34 - 7533 of 21973

Harry - Roger has just changed up a gear - amazing player.

halifax - 24 Nov 2011 14:35 - 7534 of 21973

Harry get real the germans run the ECB.

HARRYCAT - 24 Nov 2011 14:44 - 7535 of 21973

I know what you mean, but actually they don't:
"The Governing Council is the main decision-making body of the ECB. It consists of
a)the six members of the Executive Board (2 of which are german), plus
b)the governors of the national central banks of the 17 euro area countries."

cynic - 24 Nov 2011 15:19 - 7536 of 21973

i fully expected ftse to be down 50/60 points at the open, which it patently was not ...... however, after a feeble rally to +34, it is now down 40

halifax - 24 Nov 2011 16:15 - 7537 of 21973

Harry the composition of the ECB's board is immaterial ..... which country calls the shots and pays the bills?

ptholden - 24 Nov 2011 19:01 - 7538 of 21973

Not so long ago I was quite Bullish overall, I could see Cable continuing its upward trend and the DOW / FTSE doing likewise.

What a difference a few weeks makes :(

I've noticed that the EUR/USD cross has been in a long term downward channel since July 2008 and is now well into the next downward leg (the third). It's quite an easy channel to spot and also symmetrical in time and price. If the price movement follows previous performance, the pair could hit 1.15 very early next year (2000 pips in three months?).

Naturally, equities will spiral downwards in the same manner and I think we'd be quite lucky to see a low on the DOW of just 10,600 and I've only picked that number as the last major correction. I wonder if the 2008 sub prime low of 7000 ish could be re-visited?

As always just ruminating about the general state of affairs, but for sure it would appear that the enormous levels of debt worldwide have not yet played out in respect of banks, financial institutions, even countries going to the wall.

skinny - 25 Nov 2011 09:11 - 7539 of 21973

I think the last time we had 9 consecutive down days (before now) was January 2003 - I'm not sure when/if we had 10 - maybe today!

HARRYCAT - 25 Nov 2011 09:14 - 7540 of 21973

So, the only way is up now then?

skinny - 25 Nov 2011 09:16 - 7541 of 21973

I wouldn't be surprised to see "those crazy yanks" rally later - probably after we close!

cynic - 25 Nov 2011 09:20 - 7542 of 21973

there has to a rally eventually, but be prepared to sell into it before everyone else does

HARRYCAT - 25 Nov 2011 09:22 - 7543 of 21973

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skinny - 25 Nov 2011 09:25 - 7544 of 21973

Obviously affected by many factors, weighting etc - but still quite a contrast.

On edit :- FTSE (blue) v DOW (black).


Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=UKX&Si

cynic - 25 Nov 2011 09:49 - 7545 of 21973

black is what? dow?

skinny - 25 Nov 2011 09:51 - 7546 of 21973

cynic - yes its annoying that MAM chart software doesn't annotate as such - now updated.

On edit - actually it does - if you look carefully :-)

Chris Carson - 25 Nov 2011 10:58 - 7547 of 21973

Dollar Index looking strong, scalped a few short on UKX, but as you say skinny those crazy yanks back in action today so who knows :O)

tyketto - 25 Nov 2011 11:14 - 7548 of 21973

Italian bond sale this AM. 7.814%.

Edit BBC news.

skinny - 25 Nov 2011 11:34 - 7549 of 21973

Here is the link - Italy forced to pay record interest rates at auction

Italy has been forced to pay record interest rates in a 10bn euro ($13bn; 9bn) auction of treasury bills.

The rate of interest for the new debts due to be repaid in six months was 6.504%, compared with 3.535% in the last comparable sale on 26 October.

The rate for two-year borrowing was 7.814%, up from 4.628% last time.

The Bank of Italy stressed that demand for the bonds had been high, with demand for the debts outstripping supply by 50%.

jonuk76 - 25 Nov 2011 11:38 - 7550 of 21973

Better rate than you'd get at the bank - if you trust they won't default in the next couple of years!
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