Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Are you drunk again this morning Fred your not making sense .

Dumbo, is awake again.

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How Brexit may not mean Brexit
Leavers should be dancing in the streets but are instead gripped by near-paranoia
Philip Stephens







Dumbo and affiliates are at the party.

"The leavers, you might imagine, would be brimming with seasonal good cheer. For some, this is the culmination of a life’s political work. They should be dancing in the streets. Instead, gripped by a fear that verges on paranoia, they see dark plots and dastardly conspiracies in every doorway".

Dumbo,

Try reading the article or get somebody to read it to you and explain what it suggests.


https://www.ft.com/content/7b9bd4fc-c20d-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354

So Fred, you think the €uro cold shoulder was a good idea?


The €uroplonkers, in their cosy agreements completely forgot the old adage:

"Hell hath no fury"



The last lol will be on them.

Fred i'm not interested in your sad rantings today ,sorry .

Max,

Time will tell.

But I think I would prefer to be in the warmth of the barn rather than roaming outside it and bleating about how cold it is.

It's warmer outside a freezer Fred than in it , that's the way I look at it.

They can all hug each other to try and keep warm whereas the majority on the outside can get on with business as usual.

The north wind doth blow,
And we shall have snow,
And what will poor robin do then?
Poor thing.

He'll sit in a barn,
And keep himself warm,
And hide his head under his wing,
Poor thing.

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But notice the swallows are already b ing off.

75458 - muffled bleats (or gobbles at this time of year) from inside the barn before you get carted off for slaughter :-)

Fred 75452 "I think I would prefer to be playing the EU's hand rather than
trying to play T.Maybe's hand"

Well thank goodness that little fred isn't doing the negotiations on the UK's
behalf, where he believes that the eu have a better hand then the UK's...

There's 27 other different countries in the EU, and only an handful that has
any meaningful import/export compared to the UK, the deficit with the EU
and the UK is near 70 BILLION POUNDS, they import more to us then we export
to them..

And if fred thinks its warmer being shackled to the eu, then bye, bye fred, go
live in one of the other 27 member countries, try Latvia, Romania, or Slovenia.

And while there do some research on how much THEY import/export, and
contribute to the eu gangsters in Brussels..


And THEY think they can hold the UK to ransom!!!!...

The EU budget is set every few years. The last time it was set we signed up to it. It involves us paying until 2020. We also have liability regarding pensions in the EU. That and a few other liabilities is where the £50 billion plus cones from that we will owe. I guess we will have to pay it if we want a deal.

If we cut the string now, that €50billion can be paid over the next three years, so no increase in contributions.

What must not happen is more years of paying in and then another bill to get out.

We can't cut strings without a deal.

Of course you can.

Simply revert to WTO rules .. there would be an interim agreement on St Theresa's desk within minutes.

Realistically, that won't happen. We will take our time and negotiate and then pay the £50 billion

Manuel,

A tip for you!





8-)

confess i always have to hand in cash € and AED and also some $ and small amounts of SAR and BHD
saves a lot of grief when travelling

fortunately my remaining € i bought at around 1.30 i recollect

I just take the empties back when I want money!

:-{

Exclusive: Britain will be front of the queue for trade deal with US under Donald Trump's new commerce secretary


Mr Trump with commerce secretary Wilbur Ross at the president-elect's golf club in New Jersey last month Credit: Carolyn Kaster/AP


By Ben Riley-Smith, Assistant Political Editor
17 December 2016 • 3:47pm




Donald Trump’s commerce secretary has made securing a free trade deal between the US and Britain one of his top priorities, the Telegraph has learnt.

Wilbur Ross, the billionaire nominated to lead on trade in Mr Trump’s administration, is understood to be determined to lower barriers between the two countries.

He is said to have “extensive” business relationships and social links to Britain after decades as an investor and wants to embolden the “special relationship”.

The revelation, which comes from a senior Trump source, is a boost for Theresa May, who is planning to fly out to America to meet the president-elect early in the new year.


More, but you have to pay: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/17/exclusive-britain-will-front-queue-trade-deal-us-donald-trumps/

Eat your heart out Haystack :-)