Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.

So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.

Didn't exactly say "no UK airports" 55011, it said "the only runway in the South East wide enough"! :-)

Isn't it more likely that HR & Gatwick are too busy for the 380 and or very much more expensive

Have sent an e-mail to PTG today asking for clarification, so see if we get a response.

prepare for lift-off again - that's what happen after a series of large transactions last time - the peeps must have sold off enough in small bits over a long time to start the whole process again - bid up, 3 v 1 - all IMO

Certainly is a lot of shares moving around this AM.

can anybody tell when the ptg warrents expire

OK folk, I don't want to get technical but rest assured that an airfield has to have more than just an adequate runway to be A380 capable. A Code "F" airport is required and there are aspects of weight bearing capacity, width of taxyways, clearance from obstruction distances etc., etc., etc.

If you are really interested, and sad to boot, have a read of this. Once you have read it you will see why I have not attempted to summarise it. Happy reading.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/NTL200302.PDF

food,

They had a seven year life when issued in Jan / Feb this year. Very good value at the moment I.M.H.O..

Al

Socrates.
How kind of you to give us something to pass our time with this evening!
It will certainly take our mind of sherry trifle and creme de menthe for a while.
If Manston is classified as code 'F' and Heathrow and Stansted and perhaps others are code 'E' then the 'others' will be placed under a great deal of financial liability to upgrade to code 'F'. This is as you are no doubt aware is not something that can be rubber stamped and put through on the nod.
The runway width is critical not only for the primary safety of the aircraft and passengers through deviation of directional control on take off and landing, particularly landing, a very rare occurance but something that has to be considered.
A secondary consideration is the jet blast effect if it is directed onto loose or grass surface, from these engines it can be davastating to say the least. If airports have to widen their runways to to eliminate this problem they will have to commence widening and strengthening for wide undercarriage load bearing without undue delay because it will be quite a logistical task considering the traffic flow at the major airports.
If Manston is classified as code 'F' we have a very distinct advantage. Let us hope it is used to the full.
Have a pint of CDM
opto

thanks stocksnerd i think i'll dip in

Nice amount of blue showing today.

nice amount of blue certainly, however if a wide enough runway is so rare can anyone tell me why are the airlines buying 380's

tipton11.
That is just part of the mystery, firstly it would be useful to have a list of airfields having code 'F' and 'E' runways. Then of course it would help to know which airlines are buying A380's and where they intend to operate them too/from. Perhaps yourself or indeed anyone else can provide this information, or some of it, and we can then begin to work things out. Certainly on the information we have so far it does look favourable for Manston in the South East of England.
Regards
opto

Another Hargreaves lansdown note has said to consider PTG a BUY.

https://www.h-l.co.uk/live/newsletters/PSPJUL04.pdf

Good Luck
Eddie

optomistic
You only had to ask! Current A380 sales are as follows:

10 Air France
43 Emirates
10 Federal Express
10 Intl Lease Finance
05 Korean Air Lines
15 Lufthansa
06 Penerbangan Malaysia
12 Quantas
02 Qatar
10 Singapore Airlines
06 Virgin Atlantic

Total to date 129.

Operational use will come later as airlines announce their intentions.

The Federal Express buy is interesting. Clearly the first thing that springs to mind would be long haul freight. However, if they currently have to do two 747 runs to a medium haul or even short haul destination because of the weight to be shifted. they might well consider one load on an A380. Max on a 747 is circa 100 tonnes, max on an A380 circa 150 tonnes.

If the economics are good I think we might expect to see Fedex buy some more A380s, especially if they have a cost advantage and use it to generate more freight contracts.

Would they fly to Manston? It would depend on the economics, costs, turnround time etc.

Socs. Interesting reading. Thank you.

Thanks Socrates & Eddie

Clickable version.

https://www.h-l.co.uk/live/newsletters/PSPJUL04.pdf

Socs.
Thanks for the info and sorry about the delay in replying but I have been out all day.
Quite a lot af 380's they will have to have somewhere to land!
Changing the subject I have just read (on another board) that a United Arbian Airline DC-8 was at Manston this AM, First of the freight shipments? :-)

optomistic said,
Changing the subject I have just read (on another board) that a United Arbian Airline DC-8 was at Manston this AM, First of the freight shipments? :-)
Correct me if im wrong.
But was it stated that it only needed increased freight to make KIA (Manston) break even or even profitable.

Well spotted opto.
Good Luck
eddie

My understanding is that the DC-8 is scheduled for 3 runs per week. I am not certain what the capacity of a DC-8 is but supposing it brings 50 tonnes 3 times per week 52 weeks per year, that would add up to 7800 tonnes. That may be an over estimate so lets be pessimistic and say 5000 tonnes.

Then they may take out a load on each flight so there could be a total of say 7 - 10k tonnes added to the annual figures. It's not earth shattering but it is a start and could add around 25% to the annual figure, ish.