Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

so after the fun comes the latest........

News from the back stabber ........

Gove defends Johnson over £350m per week claim

Michael Gove, the environment secretary and a fellow leader of the Vote Leave campaign alongside Boris Johnson, has defended Johnson’s right to use the £350m per week figure for the cost of the EU, while also urging people to move on.
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On the Today programme this morning John Redwood, the pro-Brexit Conservative backbencher, backed Boris Johnson over the £350m figure. It was “entirely true” for the Vote Leave campaign to say last year that £350m per week was the gross contribution to the EU. It was a bit higher now, he said.

That is the official figure. The statistical disagreement is not over whether that is the gross figure or not. As I understand it, the statistical intervention is that he should have used a net figure rather than the gross figure.
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But, interestingly, Jacob Rees-Mogg, another leading Tory leave campaigner, was not willing to defend the £350m figure in his Daily Telegraph article (paywall). The article is generally very supportive of Johnson, but Rees-Mogg pointedly does not claim that leaving the EU will immediately free up £350m per week for the NHS. Instead he says:

The positivity of Boris Johnson uses the settling of our account with the EU to boost public services. He wants to deliver on the promise to ensure better funding of the NHS by using the money we will save by leaving the EU, £10bn, or nearly £200m a week. That will come straight away as long as we do not agree some unnecessary divorce payout, and the next £150m, which was implied if not formally pledged by the Leave campaign, can be found if we can grow our economy.

'It would be ILLEGAL!' Brexiteer lashes Remainers attempt to hand British cash to Brussels

A BREXITEER has claimed it would be “illegal” for the UK to continue paying money into the European Union after it has left the bloc.

By DARREN HUNT- UPDATED: 11:14, Mon, Sep 18, 2017
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/855496/Brexit-news-EU-BBC-payment-UK-divorce-Boris-Johnson-John-Redwood-bill-demand-video-latest

John Redwood ridiculed the idea the UK should continue paying the EU after Brexit and argued that Britain should leave without a transitional deal.

The comments came after the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson wrote in a Telegraph article that Britain should only pay “what is due” and should pay nothing to access the single market.

Mr Johnson also restated the claim that Britain will be £350million per week better off after it leaves the EU and that the money could be redirected to fund the NHS.

Brexiteer John Redwood told the Today programme how important it was the UK stopped handing cash to Brussels after Brexit and suggested it would be “illegal” if payments continue................

Yaaaaaawn.

Boris Johnson and Theresa May in Brexit showdown: Foreign Secretary to tell PM £30bn 'divorce' bill is not acceptable




By Gordon Rayner, Political Editor
18 September 2017 • 7:33am




Boris Johnson will use a showdown meeting with Theresa May this week to demand reassurances that the Prime Minister will not agree to make substantial payments to the EU after Brexit.

The Foreign Secretary is concerned by reports that Mrs May is preparing to announce that she will carry on paying up to £10 billion per year to the EU during a transition period, which could be as long as three years.

He used a Telegraph article on Friday to insist that Britain should only pay “what is due” and should pay nothing to access the single market.




more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/18/boris-johnson-theresa-may-brexit-showdown-foreign-secretary/

"Stanislav" managed to get up at lunch time

I suspect a few cares and a lot of tablets done the job

Get the Widdecombe back...and get her back now 😃

Those caring sharing open house anything goes dim/libs at work again..



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/18/meps-censor-anti-eu-cartoons-european-parliament-exhibition/

Vote Dim lib and you get a Tory government...so avoid obviously.

Vote for this lot and you get certified... so avoid obviously.

What a bunch ,imagine them in charge of Britain ,a chilling thought .

It,

You prefer the present narcissistic bunch of incompetent tory con artists in the tory leadership and government?

They have conned you and the adolescents of UKIP and far right.

Some of which are trying to find the right coloured shirts to wear.

Have you conned yourself.

You remind me of :

PS.

The tory elite are delighted that Theresa is grabbing the driving wheel again even though she is broken and blind.

She is not a backseat driver and is leading her disastrous policies.

When she is dumped her present "cronies" will be able to blame her for the mistakes all of them have signed up to. (Including the phoney previous leaders Cameron and Osborne.)

iturama

you forgot the picks of " Freda & Stanislav "

I think they will be like this ... The 2 C#NTS

note : following the "C"

No way José says Johnson

UK foreign minister Johnson says he will not resign -Sky

LONDON, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Britain's foreign minister Boris Johnson said he was not going to resign, when questioned on Tuesday following reports that he could quit before the weekend if his Brexit demands were not met by Prime Minister Theresa May.

May is due to make a speech on Brexit on Friday and the Daily Telegraph newspaper reported that close friends of Johnson believe he will have no choice but to walk away if she advocates permanently paying for access to the EU's single market.

Speaking in New York, Johnson was asked by reporters if he planned to resign in footage aired by Sky News.

"No ... Of course not, we're going to deliver a fantastic Brexit," he said. "We're working together, and the key thing is to make sure Britain can take advantage of the opportunities that Brexit provides."

Is the figure right? ..........

British PM expected to offer to fill post-Brexit EU budget hole -FT

Sept 19 (Reuters) - The British government has told German Chancellor Angela Merkel to expect Prime Minister Theresa May this week to offer to fill a post-Brexit European Union budget hole of at least 20 billion euros, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday.

The prime minister's EU adviser Oliver Robbins assured his European counterparts that May's Friday speech in Florence would include the offer, the FT reported, citing officials briefed on the discussions

€20billion is as good a figure as any, seeing as we don't owe them any money...quite the reverse.

But even at that price, it's worth it to get from under

Come on you little Englanders sort it out.

'...offer the EU €20bn...'

'...give the DUP £1Bn...'

Where does she find these sums of money, that she just seems to be able to pluck out of a hat?