George (ex MoneyAM)
- 04 Mar 2014 15:46
Hi Everyone,
To complement the new html stockwatch, we've just released a new version of the Trades page which provides a non-Java version of streaming. In addition there is a tidier layout and some more information on the page than before. For people having problems with the new version, there is still the option to choose the Java Streaming version on that page.
Please provide feedback of bugs etc.
Thanks
George
55011
- 13 Mar 2014 10:09
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Been using the Non java trades page for a while. Two observations:-
1. Seems to take longer to load than the Java version, and sometimes seems "sticky" with long periods "connecting".
2. The red for the sells doesn't stand out as well as on the Java version. I see the point has already been mentioned, but I also do find the non java colours have better contrast. The non java version is more a maroon I would say. Why not keep the existing colour tones in the new format across the board?
55011
- 13 Mar 2014 10:11
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midknight
- 13 Mar 2014 11:06
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55011 makes some valid points. I experience the same.
Some thoughts: The previous dropdown menu to access
earliest or highest volume trades etc. was imo far
superior and much quicker than the present
time-consuming process of entering what one
wants manually, which in any case is not
explained adequately on the trades page. I don't
use this as I never get what I want.
55011
- 13 Mar 2014 11:31
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One further point.
Hitherto when the trades page timed out, a click on "trades" brought it back - as was. Now the EPIC has to be re-input each time to get the trades to show.
midknight
- 13 Mar 2014 11:56
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55011: That has already been mentioned by
a few of us, but George and his team think the
new system is an improvement. Can't see why and how!
Ah, well.
greekman
- 13 Mar 2014 15:58
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I also think the new format and system is an improvement and once the few teething troubles are sorted, it will be better than ever.
George (ex MoneyAM)
- 13 Mar 2014 17:23
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Hi greekman. If you are using IE8, you will see a world of improvement by changing your browser, and that's not just on our site. Your entire internet experience will be enhanced. I can't recommend changing away from IE strongly enough.
55011: As you saw, the colours have been mentioned before. It's a design issue so the feedback has been passed on and maybe it will be changed across the board. I do agree that it's not as vivid now, but I'm sure you understand that as this site has been built over time, it's has become a bit of a mishmash of styles so we are trying to fix this.
Regarding connection times, in our experience the new version is always faster. Are you using an old browser? We also never see it hanging on Connecting. Do you have a proxy server or firewall that could be breaking the connection? When this happens, have you also brought up the java version and seen that working ok? If not, maybe you also have the problem with Java. We are interested in debugging connection issues.
Next issue, yes, it no longer automatically enters the last EPIC code you entered last. There are several places to click that will prefill the trade epic though such as the T on stockwatch. However if you click Trades in the main menu it offers a fresh page. This reduces wait times, unnecessary connections and you having to delete a code that you didn't intend to look at. If you just want to refresh the page while you are on it, don't click Trades but press F5 to refresh. If you are a free user getting redirected via contention, you can try clicking back in your browser but that may not work.
midknight: I understand you are not happy with the new page but I'll explain why we think it is an improvement.
1) It works on the following devices that previously it would not work on: Apple mac less than v10.7.3, ipad, iphone and all android devices.
2) We spend less time doing desktop support for customers who cannot get their Java working, telling people to clear caches, cookies, uninstall, reinstall, upgrade, login, logout etc.
3) There is more information on the page than there used to be
4) There are less adverts on the page than there used to be
5) The design looks more modern overall.
You mentioned 'time-consuming process of entering what one wants manually'. You don't need to do this. Just click the filter option, leave the defaults and click GO. Then click the column header you want to sort on.
Allowing the sorting to be done on column header click brings it in line with other applications. It also makes it much easier to add ascending and descending sorting to any column should we wish to without having a long list to choose from. It also was confusing because it previously hinted you could filter on the live stream, which you could not.
Balerboy
- 14 Mar 2014 08:51
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Also, why hit the trades button again when it times out? if you use the back button on the browser it refreshes what youv'e just been looking at as on the stock watch page.
midknight
- 14 Mar 2014 10:33
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Thanks for the input, George. As Greek says,
on the whole the Trades page is a vast improvement
with all the new features. Will try what you say
with the epics
Have a good day and weekend.
55011
- 14 Mar 2014 13:05
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Currently unable to get the VOD trades page to show in this format. Switch to Java and it comes up instantly.
greekman
- 14 Mar 2014 13:05
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Chears George, convinced now to try Firefox.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 14 Mar 2014 13:08
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55011,
I can see vod with no problems - what happens when you try it - do you get any kind of error?
Ian
55011
- 14 Mar 2014 13:41
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It shows "connecting", after a little while "connecting" changes to "not connected".
(If the price moves then the price in the upper left hand corner changes).
Switch to java and up it comes - perfect.
It is not just VOD, GBO and OEX the same.
In reply to your earlier point. The new trades has worked since it was introduced, with the caveat I mentioned earlier.
I am only really interested in the trades themselves. Other data may be of passing interest but need not be shown every time. Why is all the broker info shown, for example, when it already appears on the page you get after clicking on the epic in Stockwatch? It has nothing to do with current trades.
System wise. Yes I am on WIN7/IE8 which is otherwise OK for me. Also using an older version of Java, which is performing OK for me. It only occasionally puts up a query flag and that is therefore not an issue.
On another older machine I sometimes use that is set up with WIN XP/Firefox (latest non-beta), the slowness of loading is much worse. However in fairness that machine is on its limit as resource monitoring shows the CPU at or near 100% most of the time, and with IE8 it is even worse, regularly sticking.
midknight
- 14 Mar 2014 15:07
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55011: I agree with you absolutely about Trades. I am also interested
only in the Trades. The rest is incidental and even after
the comments of George today, I think the old way of accessing
trades and the dropdown features were far superior and far
quicker for those interested only in Trades. I hardly
ever look at the rest of the stuff. I think you and I
have lost out.
George (ex MoneyAM)
- 14 Mar 2014 15:29
- 90 of 98
55011: On Win 7 you can't have IE8 so you must have IE9, 10 or 11. Can you find out which you have please. Do you also have any other browsers such as Chrome? Chrome has superior debugging options to IE.
Balerboy
- 14 Mar 2014 20:02
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I'm on XP and firefox no problems with any page,
55011
- 16 Mar 2014 21:27
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George,
It is as I stated, but to be more specific - it is Windows 7 Pro. And IE8.
I've never tried Chrome.
55011
- 16 Mar 2014 21:28
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Re post 85, the trades did start working again later in the afternoon.
Balerboy
- 17 Mar 2014 07:47
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55011 One's got ask why your on i.e.8 when there's 3 better updates?
55011
- 17 Mar 2014 08:40
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Bb,
Pretty much a blend of inertia and the devil I know!
On top of which the set up generally works pretty well and does what I need elsewhere.