goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 06 Feb 2017 13:57
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probably better than watching the awful display from the england rugby team, but i really can't be bothered to watch even superbowl for 3 hours or so, especially with endless enforced sponsor breaks
Haystack
- 06 Feb 2017 14:07
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Superbowl was brilliant. First one ever to go to extra time. Atlanta winning 28 to 3 and end up losing 28 to 34.
Haystack
- 06 Feb 2017 14:20
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Almost all of the UK is made up of migrants. We are all mongrels. My family seems to be British on all sides going back to the 1600s, but I am sure there are immigrants, refugees somewhere along the line. If we go back further, there will be French, Normans, Vikings and a variety of religions. Pretty normal for most countries.
MaxK
- 06 Feb 2017 14:30
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Every NHS trust to charge health tourists 'upfront' under law change
By Laura Donnelly, Health Editor
6 February 2017 • 6:01am
Every NHS trust will have to charge foreign patients “upfront” unless they can prove they are eligible for non-urgent care, Jeremy Hunt has announced.
The Health Secretary said the law would be changed from April to ensure that overseas patients made a “fair contribution” to healthcare they received.
The move means anyone flying to the UK for non-urgent treatment such as a hip operation or cataract removal could now be turned away unless they agree to pay the NHS bill.
A handful of hospitals have introduced upfront charges for overseas patients already, with requirements to provide a passport and utility bill, to help officials establish entitlement.
But the vast majority currently attempt to chase debts after patients have left the hospital - often fruitlessly.
Last week a damning report by the Public Accounts Committee warned that the Department of Health was failing to recover hundreds of millions of pounds, amid “chaotic” cost recovery systems.
Mr Hunt said: "We have no problem with overseas visitors using our NHS - as long as they make a fair contribution, just as the British taxpayer does.
"So today we are announcing plans to change the law which means those who aren't eligible for free care will be asked to pay upfront for non-urgent treatment.
"We aim to recover up to £500 million a year by the middle of this Parliament - money that can then be reinvested in patient care."
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/06/every-nhs-trust-charge-health-tourists-upfront-law-change/
iturama
- 06 Feb 2017 15:01
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76009. Speak for yourself Hays. I know what you mean but British is a nationality not ethnicity or race. As for mongrels, they are the result of unintential breeding. A Scot marrying an Irish girl does not result in mongrel children. Genetics have shown that marrying outside the tribe normally produces stronger off-spring.
cynic
- 06 Feb 2017 15:04
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iturama - a matter of opinion :-)
76010 - and about time too; should have happened years ago, just as it does if you go into any private clinic for treatment
mentor
- 06 Feb 2017 15:28
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iturama
re- Genetics
Just yesterday I was talking on much the same terms as you said, the case was about "gypsies" were once too often they marrying inside the tribe and then one can see the consequences.
My end on the speech is this case was, the animals in the jungle in a way they are much clever in this matter than us, where you can see the mother of the male springs will be pushing them away from the clan so no inbreeding takes place.
grannyboy
- 06 Feb 2017 16:51
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You still get inbreeding within the muslim religion, where first cousins
marry each other, that's why you have an over representation of genetic
disorders in their communities.
cynic
- 06 Feb 2017 17:07
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it certainly happens quite a lot though it is not specifically encouraged by Qran
it is or was common among the jews too, and if i researched a little, i'm sure that an element of this was encouraged in the old testament, though there was good reason - eg marrying your brother's widow gave her protection within a small tribal community
mentor
- 06 Feb 2017 17:28
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There is no inbreeding on marrying your brother's widow
They are related after the first marriage, but there is no genetics inbreeding for the new couple
cynic
- 06 Feb 2017 17:36
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you're right .... silly me
however, from the little i have quickly dug up, marriage even to first cousins is or was deemed acceptable
Haystack
- 06 Feb 2017 18:16
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No European country prohibits marriage between first cousins. It is also legal throughout Canada and Mexico to marry your cousin. The U.S. is the only western country with cousin marriage restrictions. It is estimated that 20 percent of all couples worldwide are first cousins.
Haystack
- 06 Feb 2017 18:18
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Cousin marriage is common in the Middle East, for instance, where it accounts for over half of all marriages in some countries. In some countries outside that region, it is uncommon but still legal. In others, it is seen as incestuous and is legally prohibited: it is banned in China and Taiwan, North Korea, South Korea, and in less than half of the United States.[
jimmy b
- 06 Feb 2017 21:12
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Fred1new
- 07 Feb 2017 09:27
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Dumbo,
I didn't know that you and GB were cousins.
Fred1new
- 07 Feb 2017 09:31
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jimmy b
- 07 Feb 2017 10:55
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Go back to sleep Fred .
mentor
- 07 Feb 2017 12:18
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Should John Bercow ( point of order ) be HANG?
after his comments about Mr Trump's in the Commons on Monday
Mr Bercow said he was opposed to the president addressing both Houses of Parliament
I thought he should be a referee at the commons so his neutrality was not in evidence at such a time
jimmy b
- 07 Feb 2017 13:37
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Bercow wants to worry about what his wife is getting up to ,she is an embarrassment .
iturama
- 07 Feb 2017 14:06
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Presumably she is straying because he is not well hung..