Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

that is penalty for having an open judiciary - ie innocent until proved guilty

move away from that, and you quickly descend to kangaroo or show trials with pre-set verdicts

Even if they lose their appeal, they just go scurrying to the european court
of human rights claiming their deportation deprives them of a family life..

Don't expect these individuals to be deported in a month of Sundays...

yes you are off filter again, at least for now :-)

you may be right, but at least it shows a willingness by the british judiciary to take a much tougher line than in the past

Does "off filter" mean you can dodge answering any challenge when you want to?

9-)

Just wondering?

??? ..... on filter meant i could avoid his nonsense

re - filter

for "cynic" on and off, is his passing time, just like the wireless, I should know by now

I must be racist as I laughed when I saw it on TV :-)

The Guardian

It was intended as a lighthearted joke, but a promotional video for the Six Nations coverage has left the BBC red-faced and accused of racism.

The 30-second advert for this weekend's Wales v England rugby game asked "What's Good About England" and showed Welsh fans struggling to come up with an answer.

But BBC Wales' attempt at 'banter' backfired spectacularly when furious viewers described it as "racist" and "pathetic" in a series of complaints.

The trailer was made to promote the broadcaster's coverage of the Six Nations game in Cardiff on Saturday when Wales play the current Grand Slam holders.

It can still be seen on Daily Mail and Mirror websites.

re - child refugees

What is the way to stop all those "Bl..dy Mary "women ( others call them "beaches" most likely Labour supporters ) trying again and again speaking up from those refugees, that on my opinion are not.
Most of those 90% are women, they have a more caring attitude than men ( good ), but they sure are overdoing the job in this case.

1- UK just voted against more immigrants coming to the UK
2- Those youngsters, most are not, are the same age that now are planting bombs in Europe, another one today
3- I have seeing some of those refugees saying that in the UK can finished their studies ........ what?
4 -- One way is stopping giving money to community sponsors of refugees.


High Court challenge to UK's child refugee efforts

Campaigners will challenge the government's handling of the arrival of unaccompanied child refugees from Europe, at a High Court hearing later.
They say ministers have not worked with local councils to find enough places for vulnerable children.

Separately, the daughter of the man called "Britain's Schindler" has criticised the ending of the "Dubs amendment" child refugee scheme.
Ministers argue the arrangement is "a pull" for children and traffickers.

Is Trump abusing Melania?

Hmmm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMV1HA2O3x8

Q 1. Will Melania stay with Trump for the next 4 years?
Q 2. Will the Trump presidency last the full 4 years?

Why would we take any migrants from France. It is irrelevant whether they are refugees or economic migrants. They are not in a war zone. They are in a country no less safe than the UK. Their wish to come here is not sufficient. The more we take in from France, the more will gravitate to Calais and other ports. This is never explained properly. The attraction of the UK is its economy and the fact that many of the migrants speak English. Neither of these factors is sufficient.

Here here Hays , i have been saying that for the past 2 years ,they are in a safe haven .

It's a tricky one Hays, though much of what you say is true
on the other hand ....
would you offer sanctuary to any legit political refugees?
would you offer sanctuary to children from syria itself or other war-torn regions?

one could carry that on for a bit, but that will do

Hays is talking about migrants that are in France and safe cynic.

yes i know, but there is still the wider question remaining

95% of them are economic migrants plain and simple, and most want to come
to the UK for the benefits, housing etc.

Seeing has its the EU's policy of not returning these migrants from where they
came, then by EU law they should be processed in the first country they land in,
thats usually Italy(free ferry service provider) and Greece/Malta.

During Blair's premiership did we not have an increase in NI from 11% to 12% purely for the NHS?

I am in favour of taking genuine refugees from war zones, which is why I liked Cameron's method to take vetted candidates from the camps. People try and make a comparison to the kinder transport. The problem is that those children were being brought from a danger zone and not from a safe haven like France.

I presume that you have all received the latex...sorry...latest perfect excuse for not supplying electricity properly !....(what will they come up with next...?)...perhaps it's best not to answer that as when I first saw this pamphlet I thought it answered my prayers....power cut...contact us...free stripper...euhh sorry..sticker on reverse....crikey ! it's master boobs as you love them....just what you want in the dark....fab choice of knockers...(though there is one pair I might avoid)..ring this number...jesus........even so....yeeaaahhhh !...

Time to tell them to foxtrot Oscar..




Brexit transitional deal will lock UK into EU court, says Verhofstadt


Exclusive: EU negotiator suggests Brussels does not plan to let Theresa May keep promises to leave ECJ’s jurisdiction in 2019


Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Friday 10 February 2017 18.02 GMT





Guy Verhofstadt also said it would not be possible for the UK to negotiate a future trade deal at the same time as withdrawal talks. Photograph: Sander de Wilde



Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Friday 10 February 2017 18.02 GMT


Britain will remain under the jurisdiction of the European court of justice for years to come if it seeks a transition deal to cushion its withdrawal from the EU, the chief negotiator for the European parliament has said.

In the clearest sign to date that Britain is on a collision course with Brussels over the court, Guy Verhofstadt said European negotiators were primed to push back against Theresa May’s promises to remove the UK from the writ of European judges as soon as Britain leaves the EU in 2019.

Verhofstadt, who is representing the parliament in the article 50 negotiations, said he expected a transition agreement to be put together following the settling of Britain’s debts and before withdrawal in 2019.


But asked whether the UK would remain under the European court of justice after 2019, the former Belgian prime minister said: “The starting point from the European side will be yes.”



More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/brexit-transitional-deal-will-lock-uk-into-eu-court-guy-verhofstadt