Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Which country?







Perhaps, little england!

Too many gutless wonders been at the helm for years selling off assets and using the term its a good deal for GB.

Surrender monkeys all of them.

The Referendum showed me that Members of Parliament were totally out of touch with the fundamental wishes of many English citizens. Maybe they want jollies overseas and hope that one day they can join the gravy-train of MEPs when their lacklustre performance is exposed? If Europe is giving us all the Laws and Regulations - what purpose does Parliament have? We could save all the money from running Parliament Commons and HoL and pay our wounded ex-servicemen plus Disabled civilians a decent amount.... instead we pay Lords a fee for turning-up and shifting back home...
Had the Referendum gone the other way (= Stay), then we should have closed Parliament for good. The building would become a reminder of a Bygone Age.

No British Business should be taken-over by foreigners.... if they want to get a slice of the profits, they can invest like anyone else in the stock market..... with the proviso that no foreign ownership, or Trust etc. can exceed 29% - I wonder that as a company expands and becomes important that the Workers shouldn't be encouraged to buy shares . . . the only downside being that if too much of their wealth is in their workplace, then should it go belly-up they would likely loose too much for a satisfactory retirement.

The United Kingdom will cease to be a member of the European Union on 29th March 2019.

We will no longer sit at the European Council table or in the Council of Ministers, and we will no longer have Members of the European Parliament. Our relations with countries outside the EU can be developed in new ways, including through our own trade negotiations, because we will no longer be an EU country, and we will no longer directly benefit from the EU’s future trade negotiations.

Those lines in Maggie May's speech are what turn Brexit from a two-player game into a three-player game and potentially enable the UK to finish the game ahead. The lady's done you a massive favour, and you still don't get it. You've just gotta hope that Barnier and co agree to those terms.

I am glad we have a definite pathway and policy which the Brexiters and some of the con party can unite behind and we have the reemergence of strong stable government led by Theresa!



Anyway, we can always blame and scapegoat the Bolshies for our incompetence.

Meaningless gibberish.

Yes Fred, you have a degree in it, along no doubt with self abuse. Cheer up you tart! :0)

Doh! Explain it to me again, please Hilary.

Being a bit of a 'thicko', particularly with the 'Weekly Quiz', I'm not quite getting your drift.....

Does this help, Doc?

Hmmm?

I'll have a read, Hilary, and let you know.

As a 'Thank you', here's a link to some interesting Windows 10 'Docs' so that you can play around arranging the icons on your Windows 10 Desktop:

https://www.windowschimp.com/windows-10-docks/

Just go now. Fast track Brexit and be done with EU. Plus exile Blair et al to St Helena.

Should appeal to Dil and Dumbo.

I don't know why your all being so pessimistic.

We are are leaving in March 2019 , we will decide who we let in , the ECJ will no longer have any jurisdiction over us and we will be out of the single market.

Offering 20 mil for a 2 year transition period keeps all her party on side , gives Labour and other remoaners less leverage and sorts a massive problem out for the EU.

Now if they want to turn the offer down then it's there fault we walk away with no deal not ours and they won't see a penny of the 20 mil.

I'd prefer her to just split from the eu in 18 months time but the hand she was dealt at the last election makes her at least to show willing on a compromise thanks to the remoaners.

we are coming out , deal or no deal is not in our hands and never has been and still wouldn't be surprised or disappointed to see us walk out of talks in a year or so time and tell them to feck it.

You need to be careful Dil or some on here will be calling you a little Englander but I agree entirely with you analysis. Did you see O'Jeremy trying to evade questions from Andrew Marr
on whether he would support Len in taking, what for now, would be illegal strikes?

Must remember to stock up on bin bags, body bags and petrol for the generator this Winter.

I am more concerned about what they can do now about restricting non EU migrants and the like. Including Irish travellers who are a law unto themselves.

Second Brexit referendum needed because Leave voters are dying off, Nick Clegg suggests.

So that's the plan, delay it long enough and all the pensioners will have died off. To be replaced by new pensioners of course but that is too much for Cleggy to take in. We might be suffering from dementia but we are not stupid, ye know.

I think there's more chance of Dilbert being called a Little Sheep Sh@gger than a Little Englander, Martini. :o)

A reasonable summary, even if many won't like the conclusions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/23/mrs-may-falsehoods-and-fantasies-designed-only-to-keep-her-party-together

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so then, the far right in germany has done even better than predicted
the ramifications of this are hard to judge, though for sure merkel's tenure will be more fragile, and perhaps significantly so ..... nor should the implication for the eu and the brussels "cosy club" be forgotten ..... perhaps some interesting and uncomfortable times ahead there


anyway, all the above cannot augur well for DAX at least for the short term
as i sit here in boston airport, i'm happy to be short