Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

if you ask the average joe if he likes all the all the money-spending ideas that labour is throwing around, he'll almost certainly say that he does

now ask if he'ld like to pay lots more tax and you'ld get a very different answer

And the greedy get greedier.

and your point is what?
would you suggest the reintroduction of the old supertax band above say 150k that was certainly 98% and indeed, i think it went over 100% for a while?

I leave it to my betters to prescribe the levying of tax.

It depends on what you value as your goals for a society and how you think you can motivate society along the road to those goals.

It is nice not to have those responsibilities.

it's certainly been proved that high taxation demotivates

it's also a fact that you need entrepreneurs and risk-takers to create businesses, and they assuredly deserve to be well rewarded

however, there is a huge difference between the likes of philip green raping bhs, and say martin sorrell who earns a large shedload and indeed earns it, growing the business each year and returning plenty to his shareholders
and nor should it be forgotten that shareholders are often the pension funds who pay your pension

That is one view which I think it is cultural and rather simplistic, but if it makes you feel comfortable hold on to it.

("If you consider the person who has an idea is more valuable or important than those who put the idea into action." etc.)

Fred1new 11 May 2017 18:56 - 76790 of 76792

I leave it to my betters to prescribe the levying of tax.
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That wouldn't be Diane Abbott would it ,she's great with figures .

R.I.P Catweazle, actor Geoffrey Bayldon,

Eurovision contest Saturday. :-))

Eurovision contest Saturday. :-))

Haven't they banned us from the €urobore song contest, and if not, why?

Talking about the eurobore , wasn't Junker calling the death of the English language last week , well after seeing last nights summing up I'd say that poss 90% of the songs were in English . But we all know Junkers is a total jerk .

Even Radio Luxembourg was in English. RADIO 208.... now showing my age but no sign of Alzheimer's.

Labour raised basic rate tax to 30% and possibly 33% in the 70's and it was Maggie who brought it down to 25% if my memory is correct.

Corbyn would end up having to do the same to pay for his La la land policies.

on no; it'll be only those rich bastards earning >£80k a year who'll get clobbered
the balance of the massive shortfall will no doubt be made up by borrowing and borrowing

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and to answer FRED
without the entrepreneurs and risk-takers there would be few if any businesses to act as employers

nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business
many companies now pay bonuses and give other perks to their employees depending on profits

"nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business"

The employees have the risk of short-term contracts, whether the company will fold, will they have a job in 3-6-12th months.

Will they have to get on their bikes and unable to afford their "mortgages" etc. The employees have the stress of trying to do a reasonable job of their work and getting to and from work.

The problem for a lot of the younger workforce is that they can't plan or have "control" of their futures.

Etc.

The above applies to many not all.

It is nice being miserable in comfort.

"nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business"

The employees have the risk of short-term contracts, whether the company will fold, will they have a job in 3-6-12th months.

Will they have to get on their bikes and unable to afford their "mortgages" etc. The employees have the stress of trying to do a reasonable job of their work and getting to and from work.

The problem for a lot of the younger workforce is that they can't plan or have "control" of their futures.

Etc.

The above applies to many not all.

It is nice being miserable in comfort.

i somehow don't think you ever ran your own business

i'm sorry to say that a lot of young brits have champagne aspirations but little or no drive to achieve it
that is why groups like the poles and asians do disproportionately well ...... they get stuck in and will often do 2 or even 3 jobs while they get established

Both statements of yours appear wrong.

Champagne young are often from champagne tories and "silver spoon" advantages.

Good ol Polly...




Never mind who leaked it, this Labour manifesto is a cornucopia of delights


Polly Toynbee


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/11/leaked-labour-manifesto-cornucopia-delights-tories-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may