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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 11 May 2017 19:49 - 76791 of 81564

it's certainly been proved that high taxation demotivates

it's also a fact that you need entrepreneurs and risk-takers to create businesses, and they assuredly deserve to be well rewarded

however, there is a huge difference between the likes of philip green raping bhs, and say martin sorrell who earns a large shedload and indeed earns it, growing the business each year and returning plenty to his shareholders
and nor should it be forgotten that shareholders are often the pension funds who pay your pension

Fred1new - 11 May 2017 20:12 - 76792 of 81564

That is one view which I think it is cultural and rather simplistic, but if it makes you feel comfortable hold on to it.

("If you consider the person who has an idea is more valuable or important than those who put the idea into action." etc.)

jimmy b - 11 May 2017 20:37 - 76793 of 81564

Fred1new 11 May 2017 18:56 - 76790 of 76792

I leave it to my betters to prescribe the levying of tax.
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That wouldn't be Diane Abbott would it ,she's great with figures .

dreamcatcher - 11 May 2017 22:11 - 76794 of 81564


R.I.P Catweazle, actor Geoffrey Bayldon,

dreamcatcher - 11 May 2017 22:12 - 76795 of 81564

Eurovision contest Saturday. :-))

dreamcatcher - 11 May 2017 22:12 - 76796 of 81564

Eurovision contest Saturday. :-))

MaxK - 11 May 2017 23:30 - 76797 of 81564

Haven't they banned us from the €urobore song contest, and if not, why?

VICTIM - 12 May 2017 07:07 - 76798 of 81564

Talking about the eurobore , wasn't Junker calling the death of the English language last week , well after seeing last nights summing up I'd say that poss 90% of the songs were in English . But we all know Junkers is a total jerk .

iturama - 12 May 2017 08:02 - 76799 of 81564

Even Radio Luxembourg was in English. RADIO 208.... now showing my age but no sign of Alzheimer's.

Dil - 12 May 2017 09:24 - 76800 of 81564

Labour raised basic rate tax to 30% and possibly 33% in the 70's and it was Maggie who brought it down to 25% if my memory is correct.

Corbyn would end up having to do the same to pay for his La la land policies.

cynic - 12 May 2017 10:05 - 76801 of 81564

on no; it'll be only those rich bastards earning >£80k a year who'll get clobbered
the balance of the massive shortfall will no doubt be made up by borrowing and borrowing

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and to answer FRED
without the entrepreneurs and risk-takers there would be few if any businesses to act as employers

nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business
many companies now pay bonuses and give other perks to their employees depending on profits

Fred1new - 12 May 2017 10:44 - 76802 of 81564

"nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business"

The employees have the risk of short-term contracts, whether the company will fold, will they have a job in 3-6-12th months.

Will they have to get on their bikes and unable to afford their "mortgages" etc. The employees have the stress of trying to do a reasonable job of their work and getting to and from work.

The problem for a lot of the younger workforce is that they can't plan or have "control" of their futures.

Etc.

The above applies to many not all.

It is nice being miserable in comfort.

Fred1new - 12 May 2017 10:44 - 76803 of 81564

"nevertheless, i certainly agree that the employees should get a decent crack, though of course they take no risks and do not suffer the stress of running a business"

The employees have the risk of short-term contracts, whether the company will fold, will they have a job in 3-6-12th months.

Will they have to get on their bikes and unable to afford their "mortgages" etc. The employees have the stress of trying to do a reasonable job of their work and getting to and from work.

The problem for a lot of the younger workforce is that they can't plan or have "control" of their futures.

Etc.

The above applies to many not all.

It is nice being miserable in comfort.

cynic - 12 May 2017 10:51 - 76804 of 81564

i somehow don't think you ever ran your own business

i'm sorry to say that a lot of young brits have champagne aspirations but little or no drive to achieve it
that is why groups like the poles and asians do disproportionately well ...... they get stuck in and will often do 2 or even 3 jobs while they get established

Fred1new - 12 May 2017 12:20 - 76805 of 81564

Both statements of yours appear wrong.

Champagne young are often from champagne tories and "silver spoon" advantages.

MaxK - 12 May 2017 12:50 - 76806 of 81564

Good ol Polly...




Never mind who leaked it, this Labour manifesto is a cornucopia of delights


Polly Toynbee


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/11/leaked-labour-manifesto-cornucopia-delights-tories-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may

Fred1new - 12 May 2017 13:21 - 76807 of 81564

Cornucopia "an abundant supply of good things of a specified kind".

8-)

Haystack - 12 May 2017 13:45 - 76808 of 81564

Eurovision is nothing to do with EU. Even Israel is in Eurovision, although not clear why.

ExecLine - 12 May 2017 13:57 - 76809 of 81564

It's not 'rascist' either - as in:

Norway: Nil points

And if we do pretty crappily again this year it's for two reason:

1. The contest to find the song to represent the UK's offering was run by the BBC and not by Simon Cowell or Andrew Lloyd Webber.

2. Can't remember what this second reason is. Bu**er!

MaxK - 12 May 2017 15:17 - 76810 of 81564

One for you to avoid Fred.




Update On Brexit: EU Finances Are Getting Desperate



https://uk.investing.com/analysis/update-on-brexit-200188644
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