Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new ....would you like to see those countries all have the atomic bomb ? There are far too many countries with that capability......and the risks that the unthinkable could happen increases, let's be fair and say that those countries do not need such a burden and a burden it would become in the hands of unstable and unreliable governments !, if Hamas stop firing rockets and promise some peace then the madness will stop and the Israelis might be more inclined to help their present foes !.

RF. No I would prefer a world without Nuclear Weapons. Unlikely to ever occur. But I have never understood, why the big boys should have catapults and I couldn't.

This represents to me racial or even religious superiority, which is part of the problem in the Middle East and many other places. It is an arrogant position.

This represents to me racial or even religious superiority, which is part of the problem in the Middle East and many other places.

that is a ridiculous statement ..... that said, knowledge can never be unlearnt, so i guess the logic is along the lines of trying to shut Pandora's Box .... of course, there is a very real logic and fear that an unstable country (iran? pakistan? north korea?) is all too likely to cause the rest of the world to reap the whirlwind that "they" sowed in a moment of madness

Well, only country to have used nuclear weapons has been America. They are also the only ones to have threatened their use again (in recent times). So they should be top of list when talking about 'unstable countries'.

lol - here we go. Wondered when the anti-american slogans would start to be wheeled out.

This thread is not about the current conflict at all. It's the standard islamic fundamentalist anti west nonsense that we see all the time.

Any other flags you fancy burning whilst you're at it Princess_zubi?

HI JUST LIKE TO SAY(THAT ISRAEL AND THE U.S.A ARE DEMOCRACTIC THE REST OF THE LOT ARE NOT?? IN FACT ISRAEL IS MORE DEMOCRATIC THAN THE U.K??

Gausie are you following the news in the papers, journals TV. Radio broadcasting Over seas broadcasts, Internet information services etc.

The general opinion seems to differ from yours.

Maybe, You are obtaining your information from your own propaganda services of disinformation.

I thought better of both of you.

This represents to me racial or even religious superiority, which is part of the problem in the Middle East and many other places. It is an arrogant position.

My word, what a totally idiotic comment. Why do you start these threads Fred with your bigoted one sided views only to eventually make an utter fool of yourself?
You unravel everytime.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWlSMFNRag

Oh ffs guys calm down , Israelies and Palestinians will be dancing in the streets hand in hand long before we get a "ceasefire" on here if you don't all chill out.


xxx

And don't start about burning flags after what you told me Gausie :-)

Welsh flags don't count.

B*llox :-)

Fred1new.....for a start : 2 threads...ridiculous, it makes obvious sense that not everybody must be allowed to develop the atomic bomb, if that happens we are heading for a disaster..."you cannot give small boys guns to play with !", and as long as Hamas want to destroy Israel and use force then there will always be trouble, and even though the Israeli forces seem to be missing targets and hitting civilian areas they have no right to moan about them fighting back !.

Pholden, Why don't you read what is written, then engage you brain and think of its content before you respond. Your position seems to me that of an unreasoning zealot. I was making an observation and have no allegiance to either party in the present Middle East conflict.

I am not alone in thinking that many of the problems in international politics is due to the patronising positions taken by the present wealthier nations in regard to the smaller and poorer nations.

These countries are often recognisable and supported by racial or religious aspects of those societies as well as geographical. The polarisation of the different groups is often around a racial or religious symbol. As an example, look at the break up of old Yugoslavia, where the genetic base of the country was similar in all areas and the majority of the population were Agnostic. Here politicians, manipulated the people of that country to group ethnically around various totem poles ie Catholic, Orthodox or Moslem. The Moslems were sometimes only recognisable by the variation of surnames, from the other groups. Large numbers each of these groups were integrated by marriage previous to this debacle. I wont go into the political power bases of the various groups. The fragmentation of old Yugoslavia as outcome of the recent war has been of little value to the majority of the people of that country.

Returning to the Middle East.
It is interesting that at the moment that is Israel, previously with the protection of America, continues to try to dictate to the Palestinians what they should do, while not respecting the mandates of the United Nations when applied to themselves. If they start negotiating as equals with mutual respect, it maybe possible to have a lasting peace, which would be beneficial to the Israeli and Palestinian people.

From their own history, the Israel should realise that you cant wipe out or subject another race by primitive violent action. The grievances and problems are there to be resolved.

The majority of the world, is condemning Israel for its disproportionate use of force.

The majority of the humanitarian aid bodies are condemning Israels actions.

If Israel faces up to accepting the United Nations mandates and carries out necessary steps to instigate them, then it is probable that there will be a peace in this area.

The chant of "Hamas" has be firing rockets into Israel for 8years has a certain truth. Perhaps, if the Israelis had negotiated positively and honestly and applied the appropriate mandates during this the 8year period, the situation may not have deteriorated to the present state of affairs.

why do we need two threads on this same subject?

Just for you cynic, Gives you two chances to get it right! 8-)

I have copied this reference again, just in case some have missed. I am glad I am not as isolated in my views as suggested.

Thanks for drawing my attention to it!

It is a reasonable assessment. Perhaps even for Gausie

Eyes in the back of your head.

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/historical-amnesia-gaza-p1.php