Lee

A very long and, I'm sure, a very informative post.

However - unless there's anything there that you and only you know or understands, then it's all in the price. If the market knows it then the market's priced it.

Gausie

Thanks for the responses Testex, Leewink.

I'm a little concerned that this thread is rapidly going off topic, so have set up a new thread specifically to look at the question 'It's all in the price - or is it?'

Please can we move this discussion HERE. I have taken the liberty of copying a few of these posts over to the new thread.

Thanks

Gausie

LEEWINK, I don't call $134,076 cash @ 31 Dec 03 at lot of money. They have had to issue 2 lots of shares to raise more cash, as they didn't have enough to keep going. The 2nd issue was because they didn't issue enough the first time.

This company needs some results and yes, if they get it soon you are right, the share price will take off.

But if they don't get some results soon, they are going to run out of money and if they can't raise it next time they will go bust and you will lose all your money.

ITS VERY HIGH RISK and NOT GUAREENTEED

None of them are ever Guareenteed. (or even Guaranteed - did u learn nofin from RH)

Spelling has never been a strong point of mine - give me numbers every time!

LEEWINK - You're talking bollocks.

Littlewoman - you're quite correct in your assertion, even though your post contains smelling pisstakes.

Quite right Rudolph. The only share for which anyone has been able to predict the future has been PDX. But that's different :-)

I once new a bookie whose house was called "Fool's Money".

The online bookies are sometimes call "stockbrokers" or "barrow boys".

Get some basic books on the stock market read 1,2,3 times.

I don't know much about charting but recently bought "Technical Analysis for Dummies" By Barbara Rockefeller. It seems logical and not over blown. I wish I had read it 10years ago.

Get a stockmarket portfolio software package to follow your ideas and make believe punts with. Or better still use a spread sheet and write your own. Look at the graphs!!!!

Read the "Zulu Principle" Jim SLater.

Divide your pot into 1 or 2 portions labelled eg. Safe bets 2/3 and Gambles 1/3.

Check the SPREADS.

Invest in the Safe bets something relating to your present work which you think is a good idea. Check the promised returns on capital invested in the company .
Look at the fundamentals Remember the figures reported are generally lies.


Same applies for the gambles but invest in smaller companie. Remembering many promising companies are not in profit and perhaps never will be!

Run both phantom portfolios side by side for six months. (I think the market at the moment is treacherous. (After looking at my different portfolios I feel I have betrayed myself for the last few months.)

Do this for 6months before six months before real life gambling.

Re-analyse the reasons for your buys and sells. Especially your losses.

Get an on-line broker with research facillities and On-Stop losses. "think about Stop Losses"

I use Comdirect for SIPPS. A little more expensive than some but has good research facillities.

Don't rush in because the company is the flavour of the month. Follow it for a few months, even to and after their AGM etc.

After you have done this for 6-12 months you may have enough knowledge of the market to consider over gambling techniques ie, Spread betting, CFDS, Etc.

But remember generally there is more time and perhaps chance to recover from a bad stock purchase than a bad "bet".

Remember for you to be making money, somebody is loosing theirs. And the "bookies" are in the middle smiling.

Forgot WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SHORT TERM!!!!!!

Buy a mask and rob a bank!!!

"Going off topic", I posted a reasonable point, you slated me for it, to which I had to justify it.

Ok, its getting silly now, the company aint skint, its got massive loan facility if it needs it, which I must add I don't think they've touched it, it may of issued shares to cover costs, but they were quickly snapped up by investor(s), and of course the upper top management transferred all there funds from other interests to lose, why did they transfer this or these massive amounts ??? because of the potential gains by any chance, this was very recent.

" It is all in the price " LOL, as if

thx testex for your inputs, shame peeps can't see a good one even if its right there in front of 'em.

"If it can't get results soon", the company will be skint, I think someone has missed the point here, try this :- 1 MILLION USD A MONTH INCOME BASED ON 20,000 CARATS A MONTH FOR 6 YEARS, ITS IN BLACK AND WHITE.

Leewink.

My most sincere apologies to you and your kind. I'm sure they're a top notch company and thats why their price is going up so quickly.



Whats your target? 2p?

LOL, as you will

Why is this thread being use to try and plug shares? Or is this ramping?

Why not start the appropiate thread for the company?

Dear me!Same old stuff.
Listen to Gausie /little woman.
And print that chart off:-)

"Why not start the appropiate thread for the company?"

I have.

"ramping", not at all.

I think you'll find that Gausie doesn't hold stock! He prefers to hold short positions and is very successful at it. (G - Correct me if I'm wrong)

Hi all,
Am I the only one that would like to see this thread return to normal i.e.
not personalised ?
rgds aj

testex
while i share yor sentiments i think they could have been aired with a little moe tact. we all ( i assume ) started trading wearing rose coloured specs. i was lucky and began trading at the bottom of the bull boom. others were not so lucky.

i am far more cautious now, and although posters may give "tips" in all good faith, i would totally ignore them.
i could post at least 25 shares that everyone and their granny was tipping over the last few years. THEY are ALL BUST or down a huge %. a few were lucky but all they did was take other punters money. you nedd a share that is generating cash,increasing market share,blah blah blah

Afternoon all. Its great to see that honest open and straightforward discussion isn't dead. I sort of wonder what the original poster who came to this board with a genuine question and interest has made of the subsequent discussion....

If you're still out there old fella can you tell us what you finally decided to do ?

Compliments of the day to you all.

Yes I remember this one at the start, think I was suggesting the alternative of a car somewhere along the line.........interested to know how it went to.