Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Mrs May needs to show some guts and do an about turn on her attack on old folk. My local Tory MP is pulling his hair out as he has nothing to counter JC's hand-outs!

easy to offer spend spend spend .... shame about the reality of how it will be paid for

How soon people forget Labour's parting shot about the countries finances

"Painstakingly Detailed" EU Brexit Document Demands UK Payment For Everything


by Tyler Durden

May 31, 2017 10:51 AM




Brexit without a signed agreement looks increasingly likely as I suggested all along.

EU documents reveal “Painstaking Brexit Detail” down to the smallest item demanded by every nation.

The document also demands arbitration by the European Court of Justice (ECJ). These are both non-starters from the UK side.




Just 10 days before the general election, the EU published two documents that will affect every person living in Britain for years to come. Despite being dropped into the maelstrom of an election caused by Brexit, there was hardly a murmur.



The documents were the most detailed positions yet from the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, on the upcoming divorce talks with the UK.



In two policy papers, the bloc has elaborated its stance on the Brexit bill and citizens’ rights.



The 10-page paper on the bill does not put a price on the divorce, but sets out in painstaking detail all EU bodies with a vested interest in the spoils – 40 agencies, eight joint projects on new technologies and a panoply of funds agreed by all countries, from aid for refugees in Turkey to supporting peace in Colombia.



No detail is too small. Britain is even on the hook for funding teachers at the elite European schools that educate EU civil servants’ children.



On citizens’ rights, the EU spells out in greater detail the protections it wants to secure for nearly 5 million people on the wrong side of Brexit – 3.5 million EU nationals in the UK and 1.2 million Britons on the continent.



In a red rag to hardline Brexiters, the document stresses the European court of justice (ECJ) must have full jurisdiction for ruling on disputes about citizens’ rights, while the European commission ought to have full powers for monitoring whether the UK is upholding the bargain.




More €U bollox here:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-31/painstakingly-detailed-eu-brexit-document-demands-uk-payment-everything

Shows how desperate the other parties were last night making most of May not being there , when she said weeks ago she wouldn't do it . The Snp with their deputy there instead of Sturgeon , what twisted people .

my thoughts posted last night on advfn ....

amber rudd is impressive .... got lucky by drawing last spot to sum up at the end

angus robertson, the snp chap, came across very coherently and well ..... good to see him giving corbyn the odd biff too

paul nuttall lived up to his name

tim farron speaks ok but has the most appalling tv persona

is MAY and the party wanting to lose the election she was a remoaner
it looks to methat they want to lose

were are the tories who campaigned to leave , silent

it appears that they are doing everthing to lose

i'm afraid latest polls are pretty bleak

I think they were a bit cocky because of supposed lead and made mistakes thinking they could do whatever they wanted , but made an error and maybe hoping people forced to vote for them .

4 big companies are going to announce their leaving the uk and going back to the USA
will cost over 33000 jobs and also jobs that rely on them

To think May was asking Corbyn to resign and do the honourable thing a few months back , blimey .

it appears the uk is finished has a leading power its over , the uk will be a third rate country owned by the eu . and would be used as a prison for the unwanted of Europe

I'm not keen on some Tory policy or some of them for that matter but if Labour were to somehow win it would be the end of Britain as we know it ,yes we can throw them, out after 4 years but they will negotiate Brexit and totally ruin it for ever.
Some of the people you ask voting Labour have no idea why or what they are voting for a bit like some of the Remainers who said they voted remain because they wanted to travel in Europe.

i have little doubt that the rush of 2m to register to vote was significantly by young left-wing supporters

meanwhile and fyi, ig election forecast still gives tories an overall majority, but now reduced to 30/35

What do we think of Scotland , will they turn away from SNP .

little change i suspect

Typical loaded audience brought to you by the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.

Corby waffling away along with the rest of the coven doing what they do best: fantasy politics with spending promises to boot.

I have little time for Rudd, but she was at least talking sense.


Shame the wee beastie wasn't there to complete the fiasco.

i believe there were complaints about last night's audience, though fat lot of good that will do

however, there is undisputable evidence that tory support is on a sharp downturn
whether or not that can and will be reversed over the coming week remains to be seen

what or who get in will not affect my family ,
is it worth bothering because it appears the conservatives do not want to win doing all they can to lose
if they do not come out with a change of tack will not vote

why will it not affect your family?

taxation issues apart, you rant incessantly against immigrants and the eu in general
with that in mind, surely you are better to vote for the party (leader) who you think will fight the hardest in brexit negotiations rather than just abdicate responsibility