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PC & MAC CLINIC - On line problem solving. (CPU)     

Crocodile - 16 Dec 2002 03:59

HARRYCAT - 05 Feb 2009 13:18 - 7723 of 11003

Sounds like a bit of a nightmare, mick! Wish I could help you.
The BIOS does not rely on a soundcard or external speakers as the beeps are routed through the basic PC integral speaker. It could be that speaker has been damaged or disconnected, so it doesn't necessarily follow that the BIOS is faulty, but it does sound to me that there might well be a motherboard fault.

banjomick - 05 Feb 2009 15:25 - 7724 of 11003

Thanks HC,
Going to get comp.off him over weekend and have a good look.I thought the beeps came from the MB itself ie bult in but as I haven't built a new rig up in over three years I'm a bit rusty........

tyketto - 05 Feb 2009 17:10 - 7725 of 11003

bjm.
When powered up with a short on the board,
it might have taken down one of the power rails
from the PSU.
Don't know if they S/C protected on modern kit,
but if you've got another PSU might be woth a try.
mac.

Kayak - 05 Feb 2009 17:12 - 7726 of 11003

I think the chances of the motherboard being OK are sadly pretty slim. Beeps need a speaker connected.

banjomick - 05 Feb 2009 17:24 - 7727 of 11003

Cheers all,will keep you up to date.

banjomick - 05 Feb 2009 21:59 - 7728 of 11003

Kayak,

My rig doesn't have an internal speaker and over the last three or is it four years I have had times with many a beep-lol

Kayak - 05 Feb 2009 22:36 - 7729 of 11003

Ah well I haven't come across that before!

banjomick - 05 Feb 2009 22:39 - 7730 of 11003

I think,unless it's in top of case:

http://www.antec.com/uk/productDetails.php?ProdID=09161

Kayak - 05 Feb 2009 23:02 - 7731 of 11003

banjo, the speaker these days is a very small sounder, maybe 3/8" in diameter, it should be behind the front panel.

tyketto - 06 Feb 2009 00:30 - 7732 of 11003

Bjm,
One of my computers does not have an internal sounder
(for whatever reason0
The only time I hear beeps and bongs is when I switch on
the HiFi,connected to the audio output.
mac

banjomick - 06 Feb 2009 00:39 - 7733 of 11003

Kayak,
I'll have a look over weekend just out of curiosity,cheers.

Mega Bucks - 08 Feb 2009 15:34 - 7734 of 11003

Help required on backup of vps server,i have a vps server with 250gig storage and 3TB bandwidth for our Adult sites i am looking at some form of backup for this server i have the option of another vps would that be a wise move to back up the original host onto the new one and if so how would i go about doing it or is there another way i could this.Both have c/panel installed on the servers.

Problem has been solved we have one major vps and 2 smaller ones in 2 locations so that we are finally bullit proof.

Thanks

banjomick - 09 Feb 2009 23:39 - 7735 of 11003

My case does have an internal speaker after all but it's not connected to MB and still beeps without any external speakers.

Got the comp.back off eldest and his state of the art case doesn't have a speaker but the MB has pins for one.Hearing no beeps at all maybe due to the MB being knackered after being shorted out so I still don't know whether it needs one or not for this board.

Anyway,new MB on it's way at great expense grrrrrrrrr

HARRYCAT - 10 Feb 2009 08:52 - 7736 of 11003

I have a Gigabyte M/B on an old PC which beeps via the case speaker, but have recently bought an ASUS M/B for a friend which beeps independently of any speakers, so not sure which is now the norm.
I have no idea how to test components of a M/B. Presumably with a voltmeter, pin by pin, but probably not worth the effort as replacing the dud component then requires special skills!
Just hope all your plug in boards work with the new M/B, banjomick, as the new boards now only come with Express sockets now. PCI & ISA sockets are almost a thing of the past!

banjomick - 10 Feb 2009 22:16 - 7737 of 11003

Evening HARRYCAT,

I'm rightly or wrongly going on the theory that as one corner of the MB was screwed and thus shorted firmly to the case the MB took a big hit even though the PS would have cut out near instantly on detecting the short.

Going to put the new MB in and connect the PS (after I've tested it in mine) with some working compatible but slower memory.I am also assuming the new graphics card that didn't work at all in old MB is undamaged or if damaged won't knack the MB...........on second thoughts I might take it over to a comp.shop and get it tested first :-) Only got AGP on mine............

Bobcolby - 13 Feb 2009 17:50 - 7738 of 11003

FYI

In earlier posts, diffs with installing SP3 were discussed.

I tried everything on mine but no luck.

Then decided I might as well try installing Linux because I did not want to use a PC with possible security issues.

So got Linux version ubuntu 8.1 for free and my PC has had a new lease of life. It runs much faster than before with browsing being almost instantaneous. My Moneyam works fine and is much much quicker.

Dont think I can run etrade or cmc etc but it is good for everything else.

It did not like my matrox quad graphics card but works fine on single screen and I think I can add other singles if I want more screens

zscrooge - 13 Feb 2009 18:51 - 7739 of 11003

Evening gents. Hopefully a simple question for you. All my kit at home is PC based but my daughter wants an Apple laptop. If she gets one, will we both be able to share the same router for internet connection?

Optimist - 13 Feb 2009 19:52 - 7740 of 11003

Bobcolby

Have a look round for drivers for your Matrox card. Many of them are supported or there may be a workaround.

You could try running CMC or E*Treade under WINE, if that does not work (which it most likely won't, try using an old Windows XP Pro machine and access it using rdesktop.

Although many security and virus issues are specific to Windows, there are still vulnerablilties in Linux. At the very least, get one of the free AV packages.

zscrooge

An appple should work fine with your existing router (insofar as an apple is capable of working at all).

zscrooge - 13 Feb 2009 20:26 - 7741 of 11003

Cheers opto - i take it you are not fond of apple's then?

Strangely enough, I started on them in late 80s and loved their ease of use but migrated to PCs. So now haven't a clue on apples.

Optimist - 13 Feb 2009 20:57 - 7742 of 11003

zscrooge

You've guessed it ;)

I've never had much to do with apples but they are far too expensive and I think they lost their ease of use and graphics advantage when Microsoft bought out Windows 95. I do use Linux for some things because it has so much for free, but most of the time it's too complicated. My main OS at the moment is Windows 7 beta which will rule the world..
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