goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
hlyeo98
- 09 Jun 2017 15:04
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Captain May has kicked the ball over the bars.
VICTIM
- 09 Jun 2017 15:13
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There's certainly a bit of sniggering going on at the Bbc , i feel .
cynic
- 09 Jun 2017 15:27
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george - a lot of young voters signed up to vote at the last minute .....
as you say, corbyn offered them free jars of sweets, 3-bedroom houses at <£100k and a magic wand that would produce jobs paying £15/20k a year provided they could secure a 2.2 in media studies from piddletown uni
Clocktower
- 09 Jun 2017 16:00
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Gullible young voters and die hard Labour left wing voters that just want change regardless of the damage that it might do to the country, and as always a Labour goverment would leave the country with more unemployement - and back to strikes.
Promise the earth deliver poverty for the masses that voted Labour, if they were given a chance to run the Country.
David10brook
- 09 Jun 2017 16:03
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Goldfinger said about this site when he kicked it off on 09 Jun 2005 12:25....yes all that time ago
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment.....".............".seems like nothing has changed which is a shame as there are so many crap BBs out there.
cynic
- 09 Jun 2017 16:09
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i'm afraid that MAM has very much lost its way
for share discussion, i primarily inhabit FAR9 on advfn where some good ideas come up and, for the most part, it's good tempered too
aldwickkk
- 09 Jun 2017 16:12
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We should bring the voting age up to 21 until the brain washing from their lefty teachers wears off a bit.
David10brook
- 09 Jun 2017 16:14
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Thx cynic, I am, in general, a read only BB person mainly on LSE but of late the standards there make me want to vomit!
One word out of place on there and the knives are drawn really for personal insults at less that 10 paces.
VICTIM
- 09 Jun 2017 16:14
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I had a feeling that tutors , teachers may have had a hand in it as well aldwickkk , as they seemed to want to remain if i remember .
Fred1new
- 09 Jun 2017 16:16
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Clock,
Suggest you examine the employment figures produced by the tory propaganda unit carefully.
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Cynic,
How many of those "worthless" degrees do you have?
VICTIM
- 09 Jun 2017 16:23
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You want to look in on the BBC site Have Your Say , it's just the same there , but quite funny as well .
Chris Carson
- 09 Jun 2017 16:24
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Hey David10brook, takes two to tango where have you been. As for as Goldfinger is concerned he was banned for life for being a TWAT. If you miss him that much take up cynic's suggestion over the road, he calls himself 3rd Eye (lost count of the many other usernames he uses). Far9 thread? more like Hindsight thread :0)
cynic
- 09 Jun 2017 16:24
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none; i went from school to NZ and Oz where i got all sorts of jobs for about 18 months
when i came back to uk, i admit i went into the family company, but started in the warehouse where the fabrics came in
cynic
- 09 Jun 2017 16:25
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at least FAR9 posts far more than just charts without comment as some do here
Chris Carson
- 09 Jun 2017 16:27
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Depends if your mate has kept up with his meds cynic.
cynic
- 09 Jun 2017 16:30
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not all the time i'm afraid
even so, a number of comments and companies posted are worth further investigation - far from all of them it must be said, but that is often down to personal preference
Clocktower
- 09 Jun 2017 16:41
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Fred1new. If we had limited the amount of people coming into the UK, that are a drain on all public services and over and above that the security services - there would not only be full employment but managable health services - schools etc.
Fred1new
- 09 Jun 2017 16:49
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Clock.
About 30% of doctors in the NHS are immigrants.
grannyboy
- 09 Jun 2017 16:57
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"About 30% of doctors in the N HS are immigrants"
Yes to treat the millions of immigrants that have moved here..
Chris Carson
- 09 Jun 2017 17:04
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How many immigrants are in UK prisons Freda? This article was published in 2016 has it improved?
Britain's prisons see huge rise in EU convicts at £150million cost to taxpayer
BRITAIN is becoming the EU’s prison island as our jails fill and those in eastern Europe empty.
By MARCO GIANNANGELI, EXCLUSIVE
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Apr 10, 2016 | UPDATED: 09:45, Sun, Apr 10, 2016
The claim comes as shocking figures reveal a 240 per cent rise in EU convicts filing our jails at the cost to the taxpayer of £150million. Meanwhile, prisons in eastern Europe are experiencing a drop in their inmate populations.
Just days ago a landmark European Court of Justice ruling barred member states from sending prisoners back to their EU countries to finish their prison terms if their human rights are threatened there.
The ruling prevented Germany extraditing suspected criminals to their homes in Romania and Hungary because of fears their fundamental human rights would be at risk by the condition of the prisons.
Of the 10,500 foreigners in British jails last year, nearly half – 4,600 – are citizens of other EU countries.
Figures from the Grassroots Out campaign show that the number of EU nationals in prison in England and Wales rose by more than 240 per cent between 2002 and 2014, from 1,763 in 2002 to 4,252 in 2014. The number of Poles in UK jails stood at 867, up 2,000 per cent from 2002.
Romanians numbered 614, up by more than 1,200 per cent, and Lithuanians 542, up by more than 1,000 per cent.
In their countries, however, prison numbers have fallen even more dramatically than UK numbers have risen, with Romania enjoying a 3,882 drop in prisoner figures since it joined the EU. Latvia’s prison numbers have fallen by 3,092 while Poland’s have decreased by 2,997.
In 2013, EU nationals in UK prisons cost the taxpayer more than £147million. Polish prisoners cost the British taxpayer more than £30million, Romanians more than £22million and Lithuanians £17million.
Under an EU prisoner transfer agreement, Britain has the right to repatriate EU member inmates to serve out the remainder of their jail terms. However, up to May last year only 19 EU nationals had been sent back to their home nations in the previous 12 months.
Tuesday’s ECJ ruling has further complicated matters. The cases concerned a Hungarian wanted over a string of burglaries and a Romanian accused of driving infringements, who had been sentenced to 20 months in prison.
Judges in Bremen, where both men were arrested, sought advice from Brussels about extradition. The ruing goes against the core principle of the European Arrest Warrant which guarantees the automatic extradition of suspects.
It will also force British taxpayers to continue to pay to jail some of our most prolific offenders. Ukip deputy leader Paul Nutall said: “These figures represent either an amazing coincidence or, more likely, these countries are emptying their prisons and filling ours up.
“First we are the victims of China’s steel dumping. Now we are the victim’s of eastern Europe’s convict dumping. Britain is clearly becoming the EU’s Alcatraz, a prison island that is filling up with foreign criminals.”
The figures were also blasted by pro-Brexit former Justice Secretary Chris Grayling, who now holds a cabinet position as Lord President of the Council. He said: “Anyone who moves to the UK should have a job or the ability to support themselves.
The problem is too many people are coming here who end up in our criminal justice system and our jails, who shouldn’t be coming here in the first place. “ Referring to the ECJ ruling, he added:
“This proves the European Arrest Warrant isn’t working. We’ve seen people who shouldn’t be taken to other countries being moved over there, while genuine criminals can’t be moved back because of human rights laws.
“The state of their prisons is seen as unacceptable by the courts. It would be absurd if, despite everything were being told, we can’t send back a criminal to eastern Europe on human rights reasons."
A Government spokesperson said:"This government is absolutely committed to removing foreign criminals to their own countries.
"Foreign criminals must be punished, but not at the expense of British taxpayers.
"We will always exploit all options to remove those who have broken laws and abused our country's hospitality."