cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
skinny
- 19 Jan 2012 15:00
- 7764 of 21973
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia Manufacturing Index 7.3 consensus 10.7 previous 10.3
2517GEORGE
- 19 Jan 2012 15:46
- 7765 of 21973
Previous was revised down from 10.3 to 6.8, so slightly better this month but not so good as was thought last month.
2517
skinny
- 20 Jan 2012 09:30
- 7766 of 21973
Retail Sales m/m 0.6 v consensus 0.6 previous -0.4
skinny
- 20 Jan 2012 10:10
- 7767 of 21973
Witching!
Stan
- 20 Jan 2012 10:22
- 7768 of 21973
..Or carry on regardless, based on recent witching form -):
skinny
- 20 Jan 2012 12:00
- 7769 of 21973
Core CPI m/m -0.5 v forecast -0.2 previous 0.1
skinny
- 24 Jan 2012 13:31
- 7770 of 21973
US Core retail sales m/m 0.3% v consensus 0.2% previous 0.7%
gibby
- 24 Jan 2012 13:43
- 7771 of 21973
quelle surprise n'est ce pas!! LOL! / wonder how down ftse close today?:
Euro zone ministers reject private bondholders' Greece offer
BRUSSELS/BERLIN | Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:19pm GMT
BRUSSELS/BERLIN (Reuters) - Euro zone finance ministers on Monday rejected as insufficient an offer made by private bondholders to help restructure Greece's debts, sending negotiators back to the drawing board and raising the threat of Greek default.
At a meeting in Brussels, ministers said they could not accept bondholders' demands for a coupon of four percent on new, longer-dated bonds that are expected be issued in exchange for their existing Greek holdings.
Greece says it is not prepared to pay a coupon of more than 3.5 percent, and euro zone finance ministers effectively backed the Greek government's position at Monday's meeting, a position that the International Monetary Fund also supports.
Jean-Claude Juncker, the chairman of the Eurogroup countries, said Greece needed to pursue a deal with private bondholders where the interest rate on the replacement bonds was "clearly" below 4.0 percent, stating:
"Ministers asked their Greek colleagues to pursue negotiations to bring the interest rates on the new bonds to below 4 percent for the total period, which implies the interest comes down to well below 3.5 percent before 2020."
The aim of the restructuring is to reduce Greece's debts by around 100 billion euros, cutting them from 160 percent of GDP to 120 percent by 2020, a level EU and IMF officials think will be more manageable for the growth-less Greek economy.
But with Greece off-track in its efforts to get its budget deficit in shape, the 2020 goal looks a long shot at best.
The disagreement increases the risk that it will prove impossible to strike a voluntary restructuring deal between Greece's creditors and the Greek government - an outcome that would have severe repercussions for financial markets.
Negotiations over what's called 'private sector involvement' (PSI) have been going on for nearly seven months without a concrete breakthrough. Failure to reach a deal by March, when Athens must repay 14.5 billion euros of maturing debt, could result in a disorderly default.
Despite the disagreement, Olli Rehn, the European commissioner in charge of economic and monetary affairs, said he expected a deal on PSI to be struck "within days".
PERMANENT BAILOUT FUND
As well as assessing Greece's debt restructuring, euro zone ministers discussed efforts to enforce stricter budget rules for EU states via a "fiscal compact", and steps to finalise the structure of a permanent euro zone bailout fund, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), which is due to operate from July.
The ESM will have an effective lending capacity of 500 billion euros and replace the European Financial Stability Facility, a temporary fund that has so far been used to bail out Ireland and Portugal and which will be used to provide part of a second, 130 billion euro package for Greece.
Germany has insisted that once the ESM is up and running, the combined potential outlay of the EFSF and ESM should not exceed 500 billion euros (419 billion pounds).
Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and IMF chief Christine Lagarde have said the ceiling should be raised, possibly up to 1 trillion euros, so it has more than enough capacity to handle any problems in major economies such as Spain or Italy.
The Financial Times reported on Monday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel was ready to see the ceiling of the combined firewall raised to 750 billion euros in exchange for agreement on tighter euro zone budget rules, but the report was immediately denied by her chief spokesman.
"It is not true. There is no such decision," Steffen Seibert told Reuters.
Monti told reporters after Monday's meeting that no conclusions had been reached on the ESM, which all 17 euro zone countries must back in a new treaty. Officials said the details would have to be finalised by an EU summit on January 30.
It was a similar situation for the "fiscal compact", which also involves a new treaty and which EU leaders are expected to agree at the summit next week.
"We have had an extremely constructive meeting on the fiscal compact and this text is a good basis for the discussions for the heads of government at the end of the month," said Juncker, sidestepping concerns about the text raised by the European Central Bank.
DEBT SUSTAINABILITY
Despite the continued deep differences, Greece and its private creditors do appear to be slowly converging on a deal in which private bondholders would take a real loss of 65 to 70 percent on their Greek bonds - giving a nominal reduction of 50 percent - officials close to the negotiations say.
Sources close to the talks told Reuters on Monday that the impasse centred on questions of whether the deal would return Greece's debt mountain, currently over 350 billion euros, to levels that European governments believe are sustainable.
"There will likely be an updated debt sustainability analysis that will be discussed at the Eurogroup," a banking source in Athens said, requesting anonymity. "Talks will continue this week. The aim is to have an agreement by late next Monday."
Speaking in Berlin, Lagarde called on European leaders to complement the "fiscal compact" they agreed last month with some form of financial risk-sharing, mentioning euro zone bonds or bills, or a debt redemption fund as possible options.
Merkel told a news conference it was not the time to debate an increase in the euro zone's bailout funds.
"I don't think it is right to do one new thing then do another, let's get the ESM working," Merkel said, reiterating that Germany was prepared to accelerate the flow of capital into the ESM ahead of its planned introduction in mid-2012.
Euro zone leaders agreed in October that the second bailout would total 130 billion euros, if private bondholders forgave half of what Greece owes them in nominal terms.
But Greek economic prospects have deteriorated since then, which means either euro zone governments or investors will have to contribute more than thought.
(Additional reporting by Stephen Brown and Alexandra Hudson in Berlin, Leigh Thomas in Paris, Lefteris Papadimas and Ingrid Melander in Athens; Writing by Noah Barkin and Luke Baker, editing by Mike Peacock/Jeremy Gaunt/Rex Merrifield)
tomasz
- 24 Jan 2012 16:00
- 7772 of 21973
just added at 5751
cynic
- 24 Jan 2012 16:05
- 7773 of 21973
a reasonable call, but watch Dow if it gets to 12940 as that could easily trigger some fairly heavy profit taking (shorting) which will spill over to ftse
tomasz
- 24 Jan 2012 16:49
- 7774 of 21973
12940 ! my lord! its a huge number!.. this is not going that high... i think us market tops yesterday.. vix is oversold below 20 for too long.. market is loosing buyers
gibby
- 24 Jan 2012 17:32
- 7775 of 21973
5751.9 :-))
gibby
- 24 Jan 2012 17:34
- 7776 of 21973
interesting thoughts dow cynic 12668.25 fine with me
cynic
- 24 Jan 2012 17:47
- 7777 of 21973
tomasz - no it's not; it's a rise of <300 points
Balerboy
- 24 Jan 2012 18:08
- 7778 of 21973
You boys near london need some cheap fuel???.,. diesel but only in red :))
cynic
- 24 Jan 2012 18:09
- 7779 of 21973
my tart's car doesn't run on diesel!
Balerboy
- 24 Jan 2012 20:44
- 7780 of 21973
What about the wife's??
gibby
- 24 Jan 2012 21:24
- 7781 of 21973
red diesel - i might change balerboy to del boy!! you dont run around in a clapped out yellow 3 wheeler do you? i can supply some water damaged umbrellas if any use to you?? :-))))
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.liftruck.co.uk/images/oldcars/reliant-del-boy-trotter-van.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.liftruck.co.uk/reliant-supervan-mk111.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=88&tbnid=js-ouOerW-mbNM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddel%2Bboy%2Btrotter%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=del+boy+trotter&docid=KRoa1sZDGH_s8M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FyEfT9qwMJOf8gO51qGTDg&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBA&dur=125
have a good evening all
cynic
- 24 Jan 2012 22:04
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nor Beloved's mini cooper!
more importantly, AAPL has stampeded after hours on their results (glad i hold those) and that will assuredly be good for london tomorrow
tomasz
- 24 Jan 2012 22:28
- 7783 of 21973
and caused ftse to pop up 25 point too... but its getting down.. Apple's great but unfortunately these days economies are not just Apple...