Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The great white is circling...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

The newspapers would love Boris so much to go on .

Treesa is history.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592016/Boris-set-launch-bid-PM-clings-on.html

Well I can't see how May can continue and the best time for a new leader to be elected would be during the summer recess imo.

Philip Hammond as interesting as wallpapering .

Hammond is a remainiac, as is Rudd...not acceptable imo.

Bojo will assuredly be favourite
however, though he is a very bright and clever chap, i would find it difficult to take him seriously .... he has had a chance to change his image as foreign secretary, but has still chosen to play the buffoon rather too often for comfort


the only other of the above to be worth considering might be david davis, but i don't know anything about him


meanwhile, corbyn and his puppet-master must be rubbing their hands with glee, though (as with all politicians) primarily for their own ends and agenda rather than for the good of the country

Manuel,
You ask what the effects on Brexit will.

At the end of 4years the UK will be not have a seat at the “big tables” in Brussels and Strasbourg.

They will not be able to affect the trading, legal or political rules which effect “trading” in and out of Europe. (Tariffs will be increased to facilitate this trade.

Immigration will be slightly less, as fewer “foreigners” for economic reasons and possibly educational reasons will wish to come to the UK, preferring the ease of movement in the EU block.

“Costs” of “trading” will be higher and be faced with more complicate rules and regulations.

The “balance of trade” argument about EU trade with the UK is important I think is less strong when you consider the proportion of UK export trade with the EU is 45% and 5 and import is 53%.

But you could remember the 53% is divided by the 27 different countries. I.e a smaller effect on the individual country’s economy.

Carrying goods through or around Europe will add to costs.

(IT slightly different and financial trading will be different as can be seen by recent movements in various companies.)
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I think it would be more sensible to be sitting at the “big” tables and chatting, rather than shouting from outside the room.

Mind with Boris and Trump working together we can always rely on our close allies to loan us another couple of billion.

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But of course, the Brexiters will puff out their chest and think any deal is a success, even NO DEAL, which in itself is a DEAL!


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Well us going downhill wouldn't be good for Germany would it , let's be honest they call the shots , they sell us lot's of cars and are cutting in on our shopping habits as i speak ,
heaven knows what next . She's showing a hard line Merkel but she won't want anti German feeling setting in .

We've been paying through the nose to sit at that table Fred and while sat there been unable to make our own deals with anyone else.

Manuel,

meanwhile, corbyn and his puppet-master must be rubbing their hands with glee, though (as with all politicians) primarily for their own ends and agenda rather than for the good of the country

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How much did the referendum cost to hold and what was the effect on the value of the pound which has given a temporary boost to the economy?


What has been the cost of the election to hold.

The costs born by the "hard-working, austerity-struck public" on a politically based whim by and incompetent arrogant, elitist con government. The present conservative party deserves the title of "The Party of Failed Confidence Tricksters".

But it is interesting to see a party so quick and able to turn on its parents and spurn their own responsibility in what can be seen as a failure.

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Would suggest the fitting new leader of the tory party would be Michael Fallon.

A man who could face two ways at once.

Dil,

Not so.

The UK trades all around the world already.

Under €U rules, which cost us dearly.

You ain't seen anything yet!

fred - everyone here has heard ad nauseam what you think about brexit .,.... however, the cards have now been dealt, and subject to some change in stance, that is the hand to be played ..... just accept that as fact

assuredly you have as little idea what the final outcome will be as everyone else

"assuredly you have as little idea what the final outcome will be as everyone else"

That is the stupidity of Brexiters like yourself and those who were jumping for joy on winning a meaningless referendum.

The UK, like or not, is part of Europe and what depends on what happens in the EU.


I think May and cohorts were lousy gamblers and damaged the future of the young of this country.

not exactly as you will be able to remind yourself if you look back
however, unlike you i cannot be bothered to keep repeating myself

btw, TM (perhaps was) is pursuing the wishes of the majority - ie to take uk out of europe
whatever the sabre-rattling (sorry to be repetitive) is is never likely to be the "up drawbridges" that some demanded ..... whatever deal is finally struck, there will still be many who are unhappy, no doubt including you

When will we ever have strong POSITIVE government that knows where it's going and more importantly knows where it taking OUR COUNTRY.

Don't show boarding cards unless airport retailers pass on tax discounts, says Martin Lewis

More at: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/travel/2015/08/airport-retailers-urged-to-pass-on-tax-discounts-to-flyers

Fred1new, It was not May that damaged the future of the young in the UK, since WW1 it has been the old that demand the young pay for their lifestyles - high pensions, Heath Care, as they will never vote for anyone that touches their wealth and what they beleive is what they are Entitled too. Free TV - Free Disabled Parking - Free Health Care till they pop their clogs, even if they know nothing about what is going on around them, because they are gone.