Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

David Davis I think would be a sensible candidate for tory leader. Interesting background and career.

Hammond if he had a bit more "charisma" would also be sensible.

Both consider what they are going to say before they open their mouths.

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The guy who appeals to me in Labour is Barry Gardiner. Very shrewd thoughtful guy.

But I wonder if Vince Cable will replace T Farron as a "temporary" lLib/Dem leader. Shrewd sensible and honest. (I think.)


We will see.

You are in demand Haystack , give us the lowdown .Pleasy .

Was that the misses Freda or the old codger .

Damn, there is a needle about again.

i can't determine how hard/far left barry gardiner is
he certainly supported corbyn in the vote to kick him out, but that is not condemnatory in itself

fred - please enlighten

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BG's cv on wiki makes interesting reading and he's certainly an intelligent guy who has even been in the real world of business (as well as public school)

however, even wiki does not clarify how far left he leans

La La loony tunes Fred ,what a plonker.

Having lots of trouble with my BT Email, as in:

"My BT email connection reminds me of a gorgeous naked girl rolling down a hill. Sometimes you see it, sometimes you don't."

Has somebody popped a psychedelic into your receiver?

Manuel,

BG is a moderate.

You and the tory riff raff have moved too far to the right.

The young revolt without knowing or caring what they are revolting about and in the main because the old rightly get up their noses - they blame the old for Brexit, they blame the old for them having to stump up and be taxed because they are suffering from dementia and filling up old peoples homes and being allowed to keep what they have saved, while the young are saddled with debt and unable to even buy a home, and also because of fininacial manipulation by the bankers/fund managers/wealthy/developers etc etc.

It is tripe to say they payed in for this life style all there lives and are ENTITLED to live way above the young/single who are taxed to the hilt.

May was right with the dementia tax but stupid for putting it in front of the public before she had secured an outright win. Lack of judgement without doubt but a women that could yet pull the bunny from the hat if those head hunting tories give her a chance.

thanks fred, for the first part at least
clearly some sense comes from a public school education from time to time :-)

I'd leave her there until the negotiations are done , to have another bout of finding a new leader will give Corbyn and the press a field day . Bore them to death , and if thing's don't go well then ditch May and blame her .

Just ditch her and find a better communicator.

Manuel,

That experience would be his only failing.

PS. "He was educated at the High School of Glasgow, Haileybury College and the University of St Andrews where he received an MA." before moving on.

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Clock,

You would prefer somebody who is dishonest about her intentions?

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If there is a cockup by the tories in Brexit negotiations and the degree of "austerity" increases, which I expect, the blame will be placed at the feet of Cameron, Fauxpage and the tories in general.

At the moment, I would think the last thing JC wishes for is to be PM.

I would encastle my queen.

And I don't mean Vicky.

I've always been a bit of a PAWN star myself , saucy devil . You are awful , but i like you.

Fred1new, It is not being dishonest, if you keep your ideas to yourself for a while. Ideas evolve as does a any decent company. Do the boards of companies put their long term plans before all their stakeholders and in the public domain, allowing others to gain advantage from their plans.

This was posted across the road, applies to Corby:



An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama?s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich; a great equalizer.

The professor then said, ?OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama?s plan?. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A (substituting grades for dollars ? something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.

As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the third test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, all failed and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

It could not be any simpler than that.

There are five morals to this story:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is doing it for them, they don't.

Excellent post, MaxK.

And all quite true.

brilliant and fact if min wage goes to £10 then they gain nothing as the skilled will want even more of a rise

did any one watch itv new home builds , well they would never now buy a new home they are built by crap tradesmen well that's what they call them ,
wimpy employ cheap migrants and are now counting the cost thousands of homes unfit to live .

they should be demolished not my words the home owners who bought
want their money back .

buyer beware was the answer to all the questions put to the builders .

if you buy a new home built in the last 8 years then you could have a home that you could not sell on