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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


jimmy b - 23 Jul 2005 22:00 - 7775 of 27111



Don't be too hard on ii ,, he has'nt got any friends,,spends his whole life doing this..

EWRobson - 23 Jul 2005 22:09 - 7776 of 27111

Suspect sympathy is the wrong approach - he needs a kick in the backside to get him doing something constructive and a crack on the head to shake up the polarised brain cells!

Eric

Sharesure - 23 Jul 2005 23:31 - 7777 of 27111

Funny how shorters like ii (post 7765) hear pessimistic rumours but reliable contacts in the market have not heard them. All my research points to SEO putting in place the right building blocks for a successful future. It takes time and will probably test our patience at times but SEO have already come a long way on the implementation process and orders are sure to follow. All negative posts like ii's do is give opportunities to accumulate more stock, so thank you for that, but nothing else.

insiderinside - 24 Jul 2005 03:53 - 7778 of 27111

EWR - you should concentrate on what the company is doing - why the market has turned - what are the reasons - why the big drop from the 19th July RNS - there has already been warnings against personal abuse and attacks - therefore please try to keep the discussion SE0 related and not personal. The personal abuse simply shows too much emotion involved - and that means worry and emotion combining to personal abuse - which then undermines your comments.

I have made my comments on why the 19th July RNS was a key marker and caused some big selling - along with the sale of half of Biotec to SP as another key marker to potential problems - what are your views on the cause of the sudden larger fall from the 19th July ? I will post mine again below this so you can then post yours after.


EWRobson 23 Jul 2005 22:09 - 7776 of 7777
Suspect sympathy is the wrong approach - he needs a kick in the backside to get him doing something constructive and a crack on the head to shake up the polarised brain cells!
EWRobson - 23 Jul 2005 21:48 - 7774 of 7777
Short-term traders seem to have disappeared but unfortunately not ii. A still have zilch respect for his posts. This time he is trying to propogate negative 'rumours' although he is the first to dismiss any report which he believes is only rumour. The comment about a two-year delay at walmart is most unlikely as this is a source of competitive advantage and financial savings. Best to ii it ('ignore ignoramus'). He gopes on to try to read some negative connotation into the extremely positive tirls of Greenseal and boicompostible trays and goes into a stupid argument about the use of the word 'and'. he suggests that this implies that the trials together asre doing well but not those on their own. This is nonsense as confirmed by the feedback from Ruane of ASDA on the Evolution report.
Ocasionally it is worth pointing out some of the stupidities in his notes; I very much doubt whether anyone take him seriously. There is a thread for listening to yourslef and it could be sensible for him to go there - everyone else will go away so he will be the only one reading his own posts! lol!
Eric

insiderinside - 24 Jul 2005 03:53 - 7779 of 27111

For those who seem to think the Greenseal trials are progressing extremely well let me help you understand that they appear not to be

RNS 5th July mentions only well

GREENSEAL trials and commercialisation continue to proceed well. The
introduction of Starpol 2000 will..


RNS 19th July no mention of the 3rd trial just mention of other trials of Greenseal AND Starpol 2000 together so why no mention of the 3rd trial in the latest RNS has it all gone wrong ??

Ian Balchin CEO Stanelco plc commented, 'We are delighted to be working with G Mondini and expect the first purpose built new machine to be supplied to an ASDA supplier that has recently completed successful trials of GREENSEAL(TM) technology using retrofitted equipment. Other trials of GREENSEAL(TM)technology and our biocompostible food tray material provisionally named Starpol2000(TM) are all progressing extremely well . We are also making excellent headway with our patent protection program in a field where there is little pre-existing patented technology.'

Its the little and you all missed it has a double meaning in this case but as the sentence starts with other - the and has the meaning of a new use together trial they are doing probably at base camp IMO.

Now for those in the know they would be selling quick has the price dropped since the 19th of July more rapidly ?????????

Please learn to read through spin as I keep telling you and read every RNS at least 5 times to check for spin.

The above is all IMO so DYOR and thoroughly.

markusantonius - 24 Jul 2005 09:11 - 7780 of 27111

II, What are you doing up at nearly 04.00 in the morning, may I ask? You must be highly motivated to post anything at that time!

driver - 24 Jul 2005 10:36 - 7781 of 27111

eric
I hope your not suggesting that ii comes over to NOWT thread, on second thoughts we can rip him to pieces on there and I will enjoy doing it, with others.

ii click here

aldwickk - 24 Jul 2005 10:45 - 7782 of 27111

Maybe II is more then one person [ II is the group name of a number of de rampers being paid to keep the SEO price down ].

bosley - 24 Jul 2005 14:30 - 7783 of 27111

personally , i ignore what ii has to say . anybody who listened to him and either sold or didnt buy seo would have missed out on the subsequent rise. anybody who didnt listen and held or bought has so far not lost a penny , as the sp is virtually the same as when he started posting. firstly, i and others on this thread , recommend all rumours to be treated as bullshit. base your research and opinions on news, facts not rumours, be they good or bad. secondly

"RNS 19th July no mention of the 3rd trial just mention of other trials of Greenseal AND Starpol 2000 together so why no mention of the 3rd trial in the latest RNS has it all gone wrong ??

Ian Balchin CEO Stanelco plc commented, 'We are delighted to be working with G Mondini and expect the first purpose built new machine to be supplied to an ASDA supplier that has recently completed successful trials of GREENSEAL(TM) technology using retrofitted equipment. Other trials of GREENSEAL(TM)technology and our biocompostible food tray material provisionally named Starpol2000(TM) are all progressing extremely well . We are also making excellent headway with our patent protection program in a field where there is little pre-existing patented technology.' "

all i can say is that i have been told by seo that all is well with the third trial and that there has been a fourth. my guess is the fourth trial is what balchin is talking about when he mentions other trials. patience , patience , patience.
thirdly, i think ii says it best....

"Please learn to read through spin as I keep telling you "

couldn't have put it better myself.

driver - 24 Jul 2005 14:43 - 7784 of 27111

bos
Well done bos, common sense as usual.
bos, Now is the time to get back on on PCM.

paulmasterson1 - 24 Jul 2005 14:51 - 7785 of 27111


iidiot posts at 4am, because he is a USA in the USA (useless shorting amatuer)

Still got that short at 15p I reckon, and still losing money all the time, otherwise he wouldn't be still be bashing SEO 24/7/365, he's been doing it for over 2 years on adv-fn, as mrjingles then thebigw, he's a loony, posts nothing on any other share, used to post on bprg until they dropped like the bag of kak that they are, he might even work for them ....

Anyone who posts that much content, of lies, misinformation, and twisting of facts and public statements, just to try and ruin the Stanelco growth story, has obviously got a massive problem with reality, and no life ... iidiot should go top himself and do us all a favour ....



insiderinside - 24 Jul 2005 15:06 - 7786 of 27111

paul - can you learn to leave the personal abuse out of things ? Just ignore people - like I ignore you totally until you just keep having a dig too much and laying out the abuse ! I thought Ian told people to stop getting personal ???


paulmasterson1 24 Jul 2005 14:51 - 7785 of 7785

iidiot posts at 4am, because he is a USA in the USA (useless shorting amatuer)

Still got that short at 15p I reckon, and still losing money all the time, otherwise he wouldn't be still be bashing SEO 24/7/365, he's been doing it for over 2 years on adv-fn, as mrjingles then thebigw, he's a loony, posts nothing on any other share, used to post on bprg until they dropped like the bag of kak that they are, he might even work for them ....

Anyone who posts that much content, of lies, misinformation, and twisting of facts and public statements, just to try and ruin the Stanelco growth story, has obviously got a massive problem with reality, and no life ... iidiot should go top himself and do us all a favour ....

bosley - 24 Jul 2005 15:54 - 7787 of 27111

paul and ii, please set up your own thread as you are boring the shit out of me.

paulmasterson1 - 24 Jul 2005 16:29 - 7788 of 27111


Bos been on the beer ?

First time I have mentioned the iidiot for ages, I don't see how that warrants a respose like that ....

superrod - 24 Jul 2005 20:50 - 7789 of 27111

from ii
"One hears rumours that Walmart is now ruled out for at least a couple of years if ever "

"Rumour goes that a series of small little RNSs will come along - but none with the power to push things up long term - all being due to now a realisation that Walmart will not go ahead and any progress into the USA market will be very much more difficult than SE0 had thought it would be"

"and now a panic is on to get into deals with other suppliers as the long term plan is now messed totally - this rumour also explains the very slow uptake by Asda suppliers "



TALK ABOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS................

if an SEO bull had posted "rumours" of imminent take up by Walmart, "rumours"of massive product sales, "rumours" of forthcoming RNSs heralding good news ii would be threatening the poster with legal action.

ALSO, my main beef with ii is his "trend" posts. i notice the last graph he posted showing a downtrend spanned only a few days.

maybe one of you techies could redress the balance with similar graphs during up periods.

stockdog - 24 Jul 2005 20:55 - 7790 of 27111

superrod - I don't think your rational approach will be half as effective as a light tap on the Squelch button!

sd

paulmasterson1 - 24 Jul 2005 21:18 - 7791 of 27111

II talking drivel again, not a shred of evidence to back up the bull' .... BUT I HAVE GOT EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY !!!!



As far as I can see, Walmart will not be able to get Greenseal quick enough ....



http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050724/BUSINESS/507240332/1046

Wal-Mart green with energy

Discount chain trying out energy-efficient designs

By STEVE QUINN
The Associated Press

Sunday, July 24, 2005

McKINNEY, Texas - Wal-Mart is experimenting with its first environmentally friendly store as it searches for ways to conserve resources and save money.

The world's largest retailer was scheduled to open a 206,000-square-foot building last week that will include features such as a 120-foot-tall wind turbine that will produce about 5 percent of the store's energy and a rainwater harvesting pond designed to provide 95 percent of the water needed for irrigation.

"We want to push this thing to the limit," said Don Moseley, manager of experimental projects for the Bentonville, Ark., company. "We don't expect everything to work, but with every component of our business, we want to be more sustainable, more economical or more environmentally responsible."

A second experimental store is under construction in Aurora, Colo.

Wal-Mart wants some of the features in the store's design to one day be viewed as standard, including waterless urinals in customer bathrooms, saving about one gallon of water per usage; recycled cooking oil from the store's deli and engine oil from the auto center that will be used to help heat the building; and climate control measures and alternative refrigeration units that are projected to save enough electricity to power 135 single-family homes for one year.

The company said there were additional costs with the conservation efforts but would not elaborate on the price tag.

"We want to see if this can save us some money and keep our costs down," said Gus Whitcomb, Wal-Mart's area director of corporate affairs.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has been working to polish its image as an employee and community-friendly corporation. In April, the company earmarked $35 million over 10 years to help the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation conserve one acre of priority habitat for each acre developed.

Analyst Al Meyers of Retail Forward Inc. said he'll be watching the store and the company's environmental efforts closely.

"This is a little counterintuitive because they are a bare-bones, lowest operational expense company in the industry," he said.

Moseley said Wal-Mart chose McKinney, a city of 92,000 residents about 30 miles north of Dallas, for the new building because it has a traditional store nearby to gauge its progress.

=================================================

Also they are still top of the Fortune 500, and will want to stay there, and Greenseal can help them do that, by reducing costs, and the bonus of being able to say they are using environmentally friendly packaging ....

Walmart tops Fortune Global 500

Tuesday July 12, 2005 14:56 - (SA)


American retail giant Walmart has topped the Fortune Global 500 list of the world's richest companies.

This is the fourth year in a row that the retailer has held the top position on the list compiled by the business magazine.

In a statement, Fortune said revenues for Global 500 companies increased by 13% and profits were up 27% for 2004.

"It got a lot harder to join the ranks of the world's largest corporations this year," Fortune writer Janet Guyon writes in her introduction to the list.

The companies who make up the top ten on the list are:
No. 2 BP (Britain)
No. 3 Exxon Mobil (US)
No. 4 Royal Dutch/Shell Group (Britain/Netherlands)
No. 5 General Motors (US)
No. 6 DaimlerChrysler (Germany)
No. 7 Toyota Motor (Japan)
No. 8 Ford Motor (US)
No. 9 General Electric (US.)
No. 10 Total (France)

Oil companies and European and Asian car manufacturers performed especially well on the list.

The United States had 176 companies on this year's list, far more than any other country. However, there are 14 fewer US companies on the list this year than last year, mainly due to the weak dollar, the magazine said.

The number of Chinese companies on the list increased to 16 this year, up from 15 last year and just three in 1995. Five Indian companies are on the list, up from four last year and one the year before.

The list and accompanying stories appear in the July 25 issue of Fortune.

http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/zones/sundaytimesNEW/business/business1121173015.aspx

Cheers,

PM

paulmasterson1 - 24 Jul 2005 21:21 - 7792 of 27111


And Starpol also falls into Wal-Mart's category for this statement "with every component of our business, we want to be more sustainable, more economical or more environmentally responsible."

Cheers,
PM

bhunt1910 - 24 Jul 2005 21:37 - 7793 of 27111

Paul - Sorry - but whilst I would want to beleive you, your postings are pure speculation at this stage. - There is not an ounce of evidence to suggest that WM is looking at any of the SEO products. It may well be that they are and we know that SEO have done presentations to WM - but there has been no news about anything else - so far.

driver - 24 Jul 2005 21:52 - 7794 of 27111

Is Wal-Mart the only retailer in the US, if a deal is done so be it, it wouldn't bovver me if SEO skipped W/M and went straight to a large packaging companies, theres plenty of them world wide. Thats one in the eye for ii.
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