Bioprogress is a stock I have been in and out of quite a few times since it floated in May but not much mention here on the Investors' Room. Does anyone else follow this stock. I see it is up 1.5p today and a few good buyers seem to have appeared.

The CS forecasts, if fulfilled, should support the price now, which is no better than it was at the start of the year. It should also drive the price upwards.

There's a couple of things from the above that may curtail the high expectations of retail investors though.

Firstly, as stated above, we should have seen bear covering by now. Any expectation that this will be a factor and drive further gains should be dismissed IMO.

Secondly, institutions. They may well want to get a slice of the action, even though there were previous forecasts, I'm led to believe. More often than not in these situations, institutional investment is satiafied by companies placing new shares in their hands and over time I'm sure this will happen. Smaller cap stocks traditionally do this as they build up a company and I would be amazed if BPRG did not do the same. Needless to say, this will have a dilutive effect on the price over time.

Personally, I'm considering sticking a few in the bottom drawer for the long term regardless of the above.

Cheers,
Al
;-)

Al , go read all the IMG buy notes ... they always forecast huge profits in two years time !

Reason I have never looked at these as more than a trading oppurtunity is that they have no manufacturing experience and in manufacturing nothing ever goes to plan , best bet for the product is that they get taken out by someone with manufacturing experience.

Margins are also too optimistic , they will get screwed by the customers ... not a must have item so big pharmas hold upper hand,

All imo.

Dil - true as well.

Not many wee bios have "proper" management, who know how to cope with the above. The market is indeed littered with them.

Interesting in regard to DIL's comment that BPRG have farmed out most of the 'manufacturing' to very experienced specialists - such as HH for the machines.

The true beauty of BPRG is that it's not rocket science, but is well protected by patents and fills a well focused niche market requirement - and a very substantial niche at that.

Yes but building machines isn't their business so you would expect any firm to do the same.

DIL - I would agree that a firm with 'proper management' might do the same. But I would differ on your views on margins and the need of the pharmas for the product.

Making even pharma grade film is not that difficult and by buying an established film manufacturing company they have moved a long way down the learning curve.

I'm impressed by most aspects of the deals so far and I believe that the management are very much aware of their limitations and strengths.

aol , the pharmas have managed thus far without it so can carry on managing without it if they want to. Not sure if its cheaper or dearer than current process but if it is cheaper then they have a better chance of getting a decent margin for longer but over time it will fall but can be compensated for with larger volumes.

My only comment on the management is that they appear to have been very nieve in the way they have leaked info , whether knowingly or not.

Hope it works out for you aol , your one of the good uns from the zoo across the road.

Thanks DIL. I understand that the process does offer significant cost advantages, otherwise I would be far more sceptical having some experience of both manufacturing and selling technological products to large companies over many years.

Also, I think that the management are learning from their previous mistakes, there is far less leaked info about these days, which is also encouraging.

Found by win2003 on ADVFN..looks good

http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/news-NG.asp?id=54108

Exelleent find

shares rising today - 70p

BioProgress increases production capacity with purchase of two soluble film casting lines

http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200408170700060246c.html

BioProgress expands film-making capacity

17/08/2004
UK-based BioProgress, the manufacturer of dissolve in the mouth films, has bought two soluble film casting lines allowing it to boost its production capacity to meet growing demand for the novel delivery format.

The company, which focuses on innovative delivery mechanisms for the pharmaceutical markets, also supplies dissolve-in-the-mouth' breath freshening strips and vitamin film products to companies including UK pharmacy chain Boots.
Boots is considered the first to market with its vitamin C strips but the technology is expected to be used increasingly in the nutritional products industry to carry ingredients including energy-boosting nutrients and herbals.

Such products are said to be in the pipeline with new product launches anticipated early next year in both the US and UK markets.

Graham Hind, chief executive of BioProgress, said the acquisition would allow the firm to take full advantage of the current global shortage of soluble film casting production capacity.

"The shortage is due to extremely strong global demand for 'dissolve-in-the mouth' products and the lack of both expertise and capacity to meet the demand, he said.

The US-based premix company Watson has recently established an entire separate division to concentrate on making film strips for its customers and to meet anticipated demand. In a recent interview, Walter Zackowitz, managing director of international sales at the firm, said Watson was seeing a lack of competition in the technology and had the potential to develop as much capacity as it wanted.

BioProgress new lines, acquired for US$225,000 each from Valence Technology BV following the closure of its facility in Newtonabbey, Northern Ireland, will add significantly to the UK firms production capacity.

Each has around three times the film production capacity of the current film casting line at BioProgress Florida subsidiary BioTec Films. The current line has capacity to generate annual revenues of around $10 million in sales of breath freshening and vitamin film products. The new lines, expected to start producing film by the first half of 2005, will increase the company's revenue to around $70 million.

The lines were also significantly lower in cost than a new purpose built line, which can cost in excess of ₤1 million.


http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/news-NG.asp?id=54187>#

With the above news, it is most likely that it is going upwards. Buy at 78p now.

This is the kick in the pants start the stock so badly needed to break though - now if it can only keep going, I expect some of the institutions are getting interested - very cheap given that the extra capacity will come on stream to positively impact earnings in the current year and the demand for soluble coatings is insatiable - this looks like a very good deal.

Two nice successive closes above the top of the early February gap. Tonights is in the gap. Not much volume, so still the possibility of a pullback, but it's looking good.

Still got the 80-90p area to get over for real long term movement, though.

Hmmm. Must admit I'm interested again. Just been back to the zoo to find there's over fifteen thousand posts since I last had a look. Shall I read them all???? Don't these people have a life?!

80p looks like strong resistance so going to put a limit order for a few (with the option to top up if it breaks out) around 75p and see what happens. Good luck to all :-)

SC - the zoo is a complete farce full of complete idiots who sincerely believe the world revolves around BPRG. They do not have a life outside this company, but I think many are up to their eyeballs in it from far higher than the current price and their whole future seems to depend on how it performs.

Very sad.

Am tempted to grab a few for the bottom drawer too.

Whats happened?

Big Al - Hi - BPRG still looking good, it will get increasingly interesting if today rise holds. I suspect that many of the hardened inhabitants of the 'zoo' have significantly reduced their average price in recent weeks.

There is a lot of hot money now waiting for the NAS float in four weeks but the conversion to ADR's might soak that up.