Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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Typical right wing excuse from you IT, justice delayed is justice denied as Nabarro said.

Nabarro? Fake news Stanley. That quote is attributed to Gladstone and means if legal redress is available it shouldn't be delayed. But we don't want kangaroo courts do we? It is normal for high profile cases to take time in order to take emotion out of the deliberations.

Nothing to do with or without emotion IT as you well know.

Justice delayed is justice denied as usual in order to cover up the culprits, in this particular case the Right Wing people who are really responsible for the Grenville Tower disaster.

Jacob Rees Mogg is a dinosaur. There's no place for idiots like him in modern society.

Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg says he is "completely opposed" to abortion, including in cases of rape or incest.

What's worse is that he believes in fairies. Oh dear!

"I am a Catholic and I take the teachings of the Catholic Church seriously," he said.

"Marriage is a sacrament and the decision of what is a sacrament lies with the Church not with Parliament."

"With same-sex marriage, that is something that people are doing for themselves," he said.

"With abortion, it is something that is done to the unborn child. That is different."
Traditional views

Asked whether his opposition applied in cases of pregnancies resulting from rape or incest, he replied: "I'm afraid so."

Should win him some votes!

Oh dear the twins have been at it again all day .

Not a chance, any credibility he had is now history, what a plank!

650 planks in Parliament.

Not so. Quite a number on the opposition benches are plankton - passively floating, drifting, or somewhat motile organisms.

Hawaii Considers A "Universal Basic Income" As Robots Seen Stealing Jobs, There's Just One Catch...


by Tyler Durden

Sep 6, 2017 5:55 AM





Forget social security, medicaid and WIC, today's progressives have moved well beyond discussing such entitlement relics of the past and nowadays dedicate their efforts to the concept of a "Universal Basic Income" for all...call it the New 'New Deal'. You know, because having to work for that "car in every garage and chicken in every pot" is just considered cruel and unusual punishment by today's standards.

Of course, it should come as little surprise that the progressive state of Hawaii, which depends on easily automatable jobs tied to the tourism industry, is among the first to pursue a Universal Basic Income for its residents. And while the idea of passing out free money to everyone seems like a genius plan, if we understand it correctly, as CBS points out, there is just one catch...figuring out who will pay for it.



More lunacy here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-05/hawaii-considers-universal-basic-income-robots-seen-stealing-jobstheres-just-one-cat

Hmmm?

I was aware he was a Catholic but my support for JRM has now gone down massively. I wasn't aware of the strength of his rather outdated and somewhat silly religious views on abortion, particulary when rape or incest is relevant to the pregnancy concerned.

But he is a clear thinker.

He adheres to the churches position, which is quite frankly stupid.

I don't agree with abortion on demand, getting rid of a kid is a bit more than discarding an old pair of trousers.

Rape and incest is another matter, it's hardly voluntary.

Max,

His strength of "belief" and "adherence" to its concepts seems to be as strong as your "disbelief" without the moral limiters of a religion.

Well said Fred!

I can normally twig what you are going on about, but that last one baffles me.


Can you expand?

Get yourself a dictionary Max 😉

Rees-Moggs beliefs are personal and I don't see him trying to impose them on others. Be an atheist if you want, but sneering or trying to force your non beliefs on others is just as bad. None of us is correct on all matters as far as others are concerned. Do a poll and you will find a small % of people that still believe the Earth is flat. At the end of the day it comes down to "do I trust and admire JRM more than the likes of (say) Corbyn or any atheist that I know?" My vote goes to JRM.
On the subject of abortion, I wonder how many people that write about it actually have any experience of it and whether there were any subsequent regrets. Just a thought since it can't be easy to terminate the life of a future son or daughter, regardless of the circumstances at the time.

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When you get that dictionary Max look up that pearler from Stan " you can Riggle all you like". :) and he is the one always going on about pots and kettles...

Say goodnight Dick.