Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Rees-Moggs beliefs are personal and I don't see him trying to impose them on others. Be an atheist if you want, but sneering or trying to force your non beliefs on others is just as bad. None of us is correct on all matters as far as others are concerned. Do a poll and you will find a small % of people that still believe the Earth is flat. At the end of the day it comes down to "do I trust and admire JRM more than the likes of (say) Corbyn or any atheist that I know?" My vote goes to JRM.
On the subject of abortion, I wonder how many people that write about it actually have any experience of it and whether there were any subsequent regrets. Just a thought since it can't be easy to terminate the life of a future son or daughter, regardless of the circumstances at the time.

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When you get that dictionary Max look up that pearler from Stan " you can Riggle all you like". :) and he is the one always going on about pots and kettles...

Say goodnight Dick.

Actually, iturama, I've had two and, both times, it was very straightforward - I didn't want to be a mother at that stage in my life.

It's not something that I talk about particularly, unless the question is raised. At the time, it was quite a taboo subject and, to this day, my own mother doesn't know as she'd be horrified. I was raised as a Catholic, packed off to convent school by my parents, found the nuns to be horrible old witches, found Catholocism to be hypocritical, hated every minute of my schooling, and rebelled against it as soon as I could.

The point is though, that JRM is reactionary, which is every bit as bad as preaching the extreme policies of the left. Politics have always been won on the centre ground, not by extremists of either inclination. Unfortunately, JRM's views are extreme.

What I do like about JRM, is the simple and interesting clarity he uses to speak about things.

David Davis, for instance as an opposite, does seem to me to be a mumbler and a very lazy orator. He doesn't seem to me to be all that bothered about whether you've got his drift or not. I also find his 'excessive leaning' on the despatch box to be rather irritable too.

I was also raised as a Catholic Hilary and I went to an Irish Christian Brothers grammar school. Fortunately, most of the teachers were lay teachers. It was a good school, very good in fact, which I didn't fully appreciate at the time.
On the subject of abortion, my wife, also a Catholic, got pregnant at a inconvenient time for both of us. In the initial shock/surprise, we actually thought about an abortion but let time pass while we got a liitle more used to the idea. Eventually she had the baby and we were very happy that we had made the right choice. At the time I remember feeling guilt at even having thought about an abortion.
Now that he is grown up and cost me a small fortune in the meantime, I wonder why I did ... :))

In spite of my childhood, my parents, sibling and schooling (Borstal was full up at the time) I survived.

Many had bets on me that I wouldn't.

Are you sure you survived ?

Mogg? now let me see.

a) Pratising Catholic.
b) Tory Politician.
c) Educated at Eton.
d) Worked for Rothschild as an investment manager.

Now who in their right mind would be impressed or vote for a case like that...died in the wood Tories aside of course.

Yep, still going strong.

I have been told that I should last another 10years.

Yep, still going strong.

I have been told that I should last another 10years.

Maybe people that can spell Stan. But there again your choice for Education Secretary has a cv that says "Comp school - failed" and your Home Secretary is innumerate - look that up in a dictionary - and close to brain dead. Just as well that you only have to vote with an x.

I seem to have hit a nerve there IT.. have a lie down you may feel better 😁

Of course people like Diane Abbott would be great ,very intelligent .

JJ has nothing useful to say as usual 🤣

It must be 8 and a half years now Freda , as it was over 18 months ago you declared that fact . You got a parrot at home ? .

One in twelve people self identify as Catholic.

I'll say it again Stan ...



Of course people like Diane Abbott would be great ,very intelligent .

Also Stan when have you EVER said anything useful ?

There was a time when people were frightened to admit they were 'gay'.

IMHO, we are now at about 95% where people are NOT frightened to admit to it.

I think we are still at a fairly high percentage where people are still frightened to say, "I am an atheist'.

These days, to conclusively convert over to 'atheism', one has only got to watch a few YouTube clips of:

1. Richard Dawkins - generally debating against religious leaders
2. Professor Stephen Hawkin - on the origin of the universe and, indirectly, 'is there a creator of the universe?'

Maybe read a bit of stuff about:

3. 'Evolution' and the discoveries of Charles Darwin
4. Learn a bit about Geological time periods, fossils and strata.

If those few things don't convert you over to atheism, you're 'a bit of a thicko', IMHO, and maybe 'a bit too full of mystic shit'.

5. Then there's the clincher, which is the generality preached by all of the different religious organisations, where they all say, "Life begins when you die BUT ONLY IF YOU BELONG TO OUR CHURCH/RELIGION".

Maybe some helpful Tory could take a laptop and go and see JRM and show him a bit of the above.

But of course, amongst those who daren't admit to atheism are those right at the top of the political tree.

Well XL, in one diatribe of a dozen lines or so, you have covered sexuality, probability, atheism, theoretical cosmology, evolution, geology, palaeontology, politics, ignorance and fear, layered with a thick coating of self righteous smugness and bs. Your superficiality is something to admire.
All of the people you quote have their critics and many of their theories are based on probability, not fact. Theology can't be covered by a few throw away remarks such as converting to atheism by watching a few YouTube clips and people being "frightened to admit to atheism".
As someone who studied geology and made a very good living from mining, I wonder also what you are on about when you write about reading stuff like geological time periods, fossils and strata as part of religious or non religious education. Do you?
As dad often said "bullshit baffles brains".