Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I await the budget!

So so sad .

This is them VIC ,miserable , part of the lets talk Britain down brigade , i'd have them strung up for treason .

Lefties are always miseries.

Another day closer to leaving.

Rejoice the march to suicide has started for some.

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It will be good to begging for leftovers from the table without being able to read the menu.

Perpetual Melancholy .

The problem with that argument, Fred, is that, with 1/7th of the EU's total GDP and population, yet only a 1/28th of a say of what's written on the menu, the UK wasn't able to eat rosbif and had to make do with frogs' legs and sauerkraut instead.

Personally, I quite like frogs' legs and sauerkraut, but I can understand why Dilbert prefers his lamb. :o)

In other words Freda you've had your chips .

You mean frites?

Flaming hell hilary , you Europeans .

Hilary don't apply logic to Fred you know it confuses him.

I'm looking forward to when we've finally left the EU and can cut down on some of our stupid re-cycling bins.

Local councils are mostly driven by the EU to make us re-cycle more of our rubbish. The EU Commission wants much less rubbish to go to landfill and the Landfill Directive sets very tough targets for councils. To force these to be met the UK Government imposes heavy fines on councils for landfill use. This adds to council tax bills and encourages all these different bins.

I don't know about you but I am not too much against land fill because the site's 'hole' can always be earthed over and trees planted on it and which greatly adds to the character of the landscape in most instances too.

They've satisfactorily done this to quite a lot of sites of old collieries. ie just earthed them over and planted trees on the site.

Surely recycling is a good thing, Doc? Surely it's just a case of helping to make a better environment for our children and our childrens' children. And if the other 27 member states can meet their recycling targets, why can't the UK meet them too?

Or maybe you just don't like it because it's an EU law rather than a UK law?

And here's a clue, if you don't like all of the recycling bins....

Do what other European countries do and put communal recycling bins in strategic locations, buy fresh and local unpackaged food to cut down on packaging waste, and walk the minimal recyclables that you do generate along to the communal bins to help stay fit and healthy, and reduce the UK obesity burden on the NHS.

It will also reduce your council tax as you won't need personal recycling bins, and your council won't have to employ or subcontract to so many dustmen. That's an example of accountable (local) government for you.

I got that idea from my son. The 3 years he spent reading PPE at Oxford weren't entirely wasted on Piers Gav and the Burlington Club.

I just burn it and bury it under the vegetable patch, along with the CF light bulbs. Hasn't done me any harm. Broop quadle smerrrr...Arsenal!

Relatives of the dead woman had gone to the hospital to cancel a debt they had for the medical treatment she received.

“The husband went to the morgue and saw a male nurse having sex with his late wife.”

The unnamed husband told a local newspaper: “I saw what he was doing and hit him. He was moving and he had his trousers down.”

The hospital worker blamed his actions on a trance.

He was quoted as saying: “Something happened. It was like a dream. The next thing I remember was feeling a blow from behind when the woman’s husband hit me.”

The unnamed female patient, a 28-year-old, had only died around an hour before she was targeted.

You do scour the press for odd stories. XL. Was that in the National Enquirer?
On the subject of recycling, I decided to clean my garages today which usually involves moving junk around while expensive motors stay parked outside. I did generate a few things for the tip however. It was relatively quiet at the recycling depot and a hi-viz jacket was sat at the entrance under a patio sunshade. I'm not sure if he was expecting rain because there was 100% cloud cover so no chance of sun.
ID please - You what? - ID please - You must be joking - no, all the councils are asking for them now. We don't want Slough's rubbish here - indeed we don't.
Eventually I showed him my driving licence and was allowed to proceed and dispose of my plastic boxes. Next time the rubbish goes in the bin.

No, I don't scour the press for odd stories, IT.

Generally speaking, I use just two main portal links:

1. https://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

and then I select what looks to me to be the most interesting.

2. http://www.thebigproject.co.uk/news/#.WejeRWhSxaQ

Here, I usually select 'NewsNow' or maybe one of the other newspaper links.

3. I also use a link to my own local newspaper's web site.