Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Anyone see that Labour MP on QT last night telling everyone how all the planes in the UK would be grounded the day after Brexit if we didn't have a deal ?

If we assume the silly bugger is right , does that mean we can all go on holiday a few days before Brexit , get stranded in say Cyprus and stay there at the holiday companies cost until they find a way of bringing us home ?

Oh and guess what , she's a remoaner ... there's a surprise.

Don't watch it Dil , but does anyone actually reply to these sensational remarks or does Dimbledum stop any reasonable reposte still . I can imagine the audience whooping it up .

I think the only person in the room that believed her statement was herself.

Well that 's something .

Tusk throws a crumb of comfort to Teresa.

European Council president Donald Tusk said they had given the green light to preparations for the "second phase" of Brexit talks, dealing with trade.

Preparations probably mean a series of lunches in November. Must be worried we are close to walking away.

The favoured scenario for the EU is to offer a no/bad deal, and for the UK to stay in the EU. However, the worst scenario for the EU is for the UK to leave the EU with a bad or no deal because German exports will be hit and they'll lose the UK's income resulting in a budget black hole.

The second best scenario from the EU's perspective is a good deal.

So, if I were Michel Barnier right now, I'd be refusing to talk trade and hold out as long as possible in the hope that the UK does a U-turn and decides to stay. If/when he realises that's not going to happen, he won't want to risk a worse case scenario, so he'll change tack and offer a great deal.

And if I were Maggie May, I'd be playing it exactly as she's playing it.

hilary,

What is the source of the table?

Edit - from an image search - The Game Theory of Brexit

Thanks,
KidA

The politics.co.uk website, KidA, about Brexit Game Theory (as you've already found out for yourself).

They're just notional scores which are intended to portray the various levels of winning and losing for the different possible outcomes.

Cheers, good weekend.

It's worth reading this graun tripe for the comment section, chock full of Fred and Stan types claiming they didn't know what they voted for..




The next time Jacob Rees-Mogg is given screen time, I will break the television

Howard Jacobson





More: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/oct/21/jacob-rees-mogg-given-screen-time

I love the end of any article in the Guardian ,it says ....

Since you’re here …can you give us some money , spouts so much rubbish that no one buys it anymore ,except Fred and his Geisha .

Love the cartoon above !......I mean the the Freddy one.....of course...

Rees Mogg would do for the 1930s stand up comedian, the only problem is that his jokes are at Greyfriars School's second-year dormitory room standard.

Probably, why he appeals to some of the rabble on this thread.

Another stupid poll for the graun, and no matter which way it massages the figs, they still cant get much of a change of attitude.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/21/brexit-poll-opinium-eu-no-deal


The real story is the remoaner trolls who flood the comment section.

Good to see the Cons know their place and in control.

(Probably not enough NF influence.)

Good news for ex-pats: Handy too when you are sending in the troops


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/22/uk-emigrants-spain-no-deal-brexit-eu

I must have missed Fred's post about the offensive remarks made by Labour MP Clive Lewis. Lewis a key Corbyn ally, shouted ''Get on your knees, bitch'' at a left wing Momentum meeting. Several Labour female MP's were furious and Lewis was forced to apologise.