Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Tut tut V.

london fire brigade, = no sprinklers i don't think so false information .
water has an alarm system .

Let the inquiry run and hopefully the whole truth will come out and lessons learnt.
Current truth is that the fire spread via the cladding. It is also true that all buildings over 30m built since 2007 must have sprinklers installed. There is no requirement for retrofitting older buildings unless "a fundamental change is made to the structure or use of the building". That may change as a result of the inquiry. It seems sensible to me that retrofitting be carried out on all high rises wherever reasonably possible.
The original fire source would likely have been contained with sprinklers. However, we all have 20:20 hindsight and it is probably unfair to blame the council leaders unless specific advice to install them was given by the Fire and Rescue Services or council safety officers.

That seems sensible.

Health and safety regulations are improved post lousy accidents/incidents. Some foreseeable others unfortunately not.

My guess the draught effect of cladding had not been thought of.

But sprinklers, may have or probably would have prevented the inferno.

Blade runner is very good. Not many of these make me smile. This one hits the nail on the head. :)

CD yes I agree. Cracking cartoon nice to see one without bile dripping from it. (Mat apart)

Terry Downes snuffs it, very much a fighter rather then a boxer http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2017/10/06/terry-downes-boxer-obituary/

The original Blade Runner is a 1982 (I think) masterpiece !....the style of filming was years ahead of its time...(so was Alien 1979)...haven't seen the new Blade Runner....

1982 ... brilliant film, the mood sets it apart from the rest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Oh Dear!

Oh dear another cartoon .

MaxK....you're right 1982 ....now corrected...

jimmy b Send an email to jimmy b View jimmy b's profile - 09 Oct 2017 09:53 - 79238 of 79239

Oh dear another cartoon .

Oh dear another stork!

Oh dear Stan

Oh dear JJ.. your abusive as well as a Storker.

Oh dear Stan to be a Geisha Girl is bad enough , but to be Fred's Geisha ,have some respect for yourself old boy.

Give it a rest lads :)

You will have to excuse JJ he has mental health issues I believe C/D.

'Political correctness gone mad'- MPs hit out at proposal to remove 'sex' question in next census


By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent
8 October 2017 • 6:24pm





A gender-neutral bathroom is seen at the University of California Credit: REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson



By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent
8 October 2017 • 6:24pm




Plans to make Britain the first country in the world not to require citizens to identify their sex in a UK wide census have been branded "political correctness gone mad" and derided by feminists.

The recommendation to make the question optional was made in an Office for National Statistics (ONS) report on gender identity after it was claimed the question discriminates against transgender people.

The proposed change for the 2021 census, which is carried out every ten years,could leave Britain without an accurate figure for the number of men and women living in the country.

Philip Davies, the Tory MP Shipley and member of the Women and Equality Select Committee, said: "The world is going mad - political correctness is taking over the country. I despair."

Research carried out by the ONS found the "sex" question included on the 2011 census, which requires respondents to choose whether they...



More:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/08/political-correctness-gone-mad-mps-hit-proposal-remove-sex/