Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The attempts to "deflect this scandal" from this Tory Government are pathetic as usual Fred.

To think this is just exclusive to the Cons is beyond belief , they're all at it , why aren't Labour making more of it .

Instead of looking over the fence into our garden, it might serve you well to clear up all the crap in yours, lest you be considered an hypocritical old tart that scratches his fanny in mock horror while tut-tutting at others.
You remind me of that other sanctimonious piece of work Harriet Harman who tried to justify telling racist jokes yesterday by saying "people like Andrew (Neil, the host of the show) will say these are all right". Well, Andrew didn't and told her to shut up.
By the way it is "privileges" but never mind your erstwhile Education Secretary didn't do very well at school either.

The attempts to "deflect this scandal" from this Tory Government are pathetic as usual Fred.

..As witnessed by the above.

Clean the crap off your own shoes before complaining of the smell coming from others.

IT.

You seem very "touchy feely" about what is happening.

Tell us more.

Saw the film "The Death of Stalin" last night. Very interest and funny in some ways.

Just wonder if it resembles what is happening in May's Conservative Central Office.

Or perhaps they are hiding under the tables discussing past mistakes and their last days.

Must ask Hays.

Politicians. Close the swamp for a year and see if we notice that they were gone.

I despair at the quality and judgement of some of them.

Why are there people on that list for having affairs ?

The real culprits are going to get lost in the mix if every MP who's had an affair or a fling with his secretary gets investigated.

Getting silly now , I saw the interview with the girl accusing Labour MP Kelvin something and if she was that disgusted at his behaviour when she first met him why in the next sentence did she then say on the next occasion she approach him to discuss something and something else happened ? Why go near him if he had behaved so badly on the first occasion ?

Don't make sense and if I were a defence lawyer I could drive a bus through the holes in her story.

The tory decent into madness continues..



One million businesses and self-employed people could be dragged into VAT system


By Katie Morley, Consumer Affairs Editor
3 November 2017 • 9:30pm




Britain's VAT system is set for major reform after a review commissioned by Phillip Hammond found the current rules are hurting the economy.

The review, carried out by Government advisers at the Office for Tax Simplification, found that the current threshold above which businesses pay VAT is discouraging small businesses from growing.

The report, due to be published next week, will lay out options which could to be used to create a windfall for the Treasury in Phillip Hammond's Autumn Budget latest this month.

One of the suggested options would see a million extra businesses and self-employed people having to charge customers an extra 20 per cent for goods and services for the first time.



More here, but behind a paywall...read the comments:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/03/one-million-businesses-self-employed-people-could-dragged-vat/

Dil.

I think there is a state of hysteria in the present Houses of Parliament, created partially in the response to the self-righteousness sanctimony of some MPs. (On balance it seemed more so from the tory side than the other parties.)

The same can be said of some of the froth around Brexit, but if you use "emotion" to aid your arguments then you expect emotional levels or hysteria to follow.

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(For some reason, or other, Fallon always reminds me of a pantomime dame.)

If you have a look at "The Death of Stalin" if you can.

The black humour may appeal to you and is a synopsis of political power of that period and this.

Karl,

Don't be silly the cons know everything there is to know about economics and catastrophes.

You keep on telling me they can't make mistakes.

Ask Hays and Exec.

8-)

Any opportunity to get Brexit in there or just hammer the Cons Freda , i agree with Dil about the affairs part , it's too far , these things happen endlessly in offices and the like all the time .

Oh dear, another star of the looney left. Why do they keep allowing this fatso to appear in front of the cameras? But there again knife wielding boy soldiers are not uncommon in certain parts of London.

Diane Abbott has been mocked on social media after claiming 16-year-olds should be able to vote if they're able to fight for their country. Doh. She must have a serious mental problem apart from the obvious dyscalculia.

They can't fight at 16. Not allowed on front line until 18. Under 18 need parents permission to join army

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5049521/amp/Diane-Abbott-wrongly-claims-16-year-olds-fight.html

If the country is at war do you have to be in the front line to be fighting in it.

Perhaps, you could inform many that as they were in the "backrooms" during the last war they were not taking part in it.

Also, if one is old enough to "work" and pay taxes then for me that would be a justification for being able to vote for those who are going to dispose of that cash.

Also, in that the younger you are the chances are greater you will "feel" the effect of government decisions and therefore should have vote for the government of choice.

Whether you use the "right" to vote is part of your rights.

Exactly the reason she was being mocked Hays. I would guess dementia has set in but no doubt we will all be informed once she starts to sit on Jezza's knobbly knees in the commons, like the good old days.

I see Hays and IT prefer a leader on her knees:

16 AND 17 YEAR OLDS haven't got a clue about life and voting is beyond most , even more so nowadays as they are mollycoddled to death . See how students completely conned by Corblimey , duh .

When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years.
Saying attributed to Mark Twain, probably erroneously, but wise anyway. Now that so few actually join the armed forces maybe the voting age should be raised to 21.