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Tadpole , Microsoft/ Hewlett Packard Alliance. (TAD)     

Moneylender - 23 Jan 2003 08:09

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abp01 - 04 Aug 2004 14:43 - 795 of 2262

pachandl

Do you mean in addition to the circular that is currently being prepared ?

pachandl - 04 Aug 2004 15:49 - 796 of 2262

abp01 - It depends upon what you mean by "circular". If that refers to the information that all shareholders will be receiving then the answer to your question is yes, if not then the answer is no. Moreover, I believe that Tad management was acting quickly (an oxymoron?) to halt the price decline by issuing the futher justification/info last Tuesday. Perhaps they delayed and the circular you mention is the same thing that I had heard of. Apologies if I have inadvertently confused anybody.

Moneylender - 04 Aug 2004 23:08 - 797 of 2262

pachandl

As far as i know there has not beeen any private note or presentation to any
institutions or individuals.
We are all waiting for the details of the aquisition of Stream Tech, this will be forthcoming. I understand that the delay is due to a UK listed Co, aquiring a US Co.
We will soon see the light.


M

yuff - 05 Aug 2004 08:45 - 798 of 2262

Hi ML
I heard the same reason for the delay but correct me if I am wrong we didn't have the same problem acquiring ETI!
OK we paid cash for ETI I believe but that should not make any difference to the details of the deal being released, over 4 weeks is total incompetence imo.

Moneylender - 05 Aug 2004 08:58 - 799 of 2262

Hi Yuff

My memory fails me on the purchase of ETI, but i dont think there was any pre announcement, it was just released that we had bought ETI.

http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1091692337&article=1096379&symbol=LSE%3ATAD

I do agree that this delay in giving the details is hurting.

M

yuff - 05 Aug 2004 09:11 - 800 of 2262

You could be right ML I'll have a look.

edit You are right ML on the 13/03/2000 they announced the acquisition as it was a cash consideration all the other formalities were already agreed this time they need an AGM. In the RNS for ETI it states they had been in negotions since late 99.

johnnyuk - 05 Aug 2004 09:45 - 801 of 2262

Interesting chaps.
I hope that I'm not being too thick here, but why do they need an EGM to complete the takeover?
I am worrying about how the falling share price will affect the deal- will we have to issue more shares to cover it and if so we could be in a vicious circle of falling price = potential dilution, more potential dilution = price falls!

pachandl - 05 Aug 2004 10:10 - 802 of 2262

ML - cheers.

yuff - 05 Aug 2004 10:17 - 803 of 2262

Johnny
The share dilution depends on the terms of the deal, the falling share price may or may not affect the deal as it stands, these are some of the details that need to be clarified in the circular, along with a whole host of other details.
Only Stream and tad currently know if getting the shares at 15.75 will warrant a good deal in the future.

Moneylender - 05 Aug 2004 12:39 - 804 of 2262

johnnyuk

The issue of 90M shares is beyond the authority of our Board, they need our permission!
Having said that i think it will be a mere formallity.

M

Moneylender - 11 Aug 2004 11:01 - 805 of 2262

from closingtime on iii:-

I made a few enquiries regarding the significance of the ST deal. You'll have to take my word for it here but the source, who should know a thing or two, has assured me:

Together ETI + ST will be a formidable company.
They will be capable of offering on-demand streaming, trialware, software delivery to companies of magnitude anywhere in the world.
More importantly there are two other competitors but they are insignificant by comparison and will be swamped in relation to us once ETI+ST are brought together.

These things also do take some time to put together. Dual diligence and US accounts have to be done and checked.
Then it will be presented to the brokers corporate divison who will make a statement regarding the immensity of our new capabilities.
We will be market leader in an area that is growing exponentially and will be able to take on all comers at a moments notice and deliver the goods!

It has restored my faith that is for sure.
Sorry cannot reveal chap's name!
Be most unfair. Let me just say last time I spoke to him about our prospects he was a little indifferent and now is quite the reverse!

snappy - 12 Aug 2004 14:14 - 806 of 2262

I hear shares mag have issued a reduce recommendation and a 5p target for Tadpole, can any readers confirm this?

The Other Kevin - 12 Aug 2004 15:20 - 807 of 2262

I'll buy a shedload at 5p. Any sellers?

yuff - 12 Aug 2004 16:58 - 808 of 2262

HI ML
If they leave this acquisition any longer the $9m won't be in the full year figures.

Moneylender - 12 Aug 2004 17:34 - 809 of 2262

Hi Yuff

Not long to go now I hope!
I am assuming that the Ann of the $9M dollar deal is subject to
TAD's takeover of ST, otherwise why the delay???
Any ideas?

M

snappy - 12 Aug 2004 17:49 - 810 of 2262

Yuff & ML,

There has been speculation on other bb's of late that the deal may actually fall through and one person who declares himself as a large holder (who is in the know, so he says anyhow, and who also says he knows many other large holders) has threatened to canvas for a NO vote at the EGM if it ever happens.

The uncertainties created by this apparent large holders remarks can only damage the credibility of the board in the short term (assuming of course the board have any credibility)

1. Have any of you fellas read the shares mag Tadpole coverage yet? (I hear it is bearish, but have not seen it yet)

2. Can anybody spot a buy signal on the chart yet? (Doesn't look to be one at the moment does there)

cunningham - 12 Aug 2004 18:24 - 811 of 2262

Shares mag have summarised their plays of the week for the first half of the year. They recommended TAD last on the 7th JAN when it was 12.5p they now suggest it as a sell with the following quote "Buying Stream Theory has knocked confidence. 5p likely before 15p". There is no more detail in the article than that.

yuff - 12 Aug 2004 19:25 - 812 of 2262

snappy
I don't have a problem with the deal itself with what we know, I do have a problem with the delay in getting the circular out and If I assume who the large shareholder you are talking about wants to put pressure on the board then they have my backing.
Personally at this price and with the info in the public domain they are a hold imo, share mags have no more info than anyone else currently and judging by the recent volumes their article has had little affect.
Obviously the lack of info to the deal is more -ve than +ve, but I wouldn't be confident to sell a % of my holding in the hope of buying back cheaper later and the details could come out at any time, so wouldn't want to be out when they do.
ML
I have no idea on the delay but you could be right, it would not be too hard for the company to issue a statement detailing how things are moving forward, it would certainly remove some of the speculation, wither way.

Moneylender - 12 Aug 2004 20:08 - 813 of 2262

Substitute Stream Theory for Exent and you get the picture!

http://www.etoychest.org/content.php?article.264


Gaming on Demand
by Eric McGregor on Wednesday 11 August 2004

There were a lot of amazing new technologies at E3 this year. And those technologies support one of the largest and fastest growing businesses in the world. Video Games are big bucks now, but the business behind them has stayed more or less the same for over a decade. But things are starting to change. I saw a lot of effort being put into developing new markets and companies are thinking of new ways to get at those markets. On that note, the most interesting thing that I saw at E3 was a little known technology company called Exent. Exent has the potential to change the way a lot of people play, and more importantly pay, for video games.



We've all heard the rap from Infinium about games on demand and how the Phantom Game Console will allow users to download games over the Internet instead of purchasing them on CD. But that's impossible. Games today are hundreds of Megs and can take up an entire DVD. It would take hours to download something like that. Right?

It would, unless you didn't need to download the whole thing.

I talked with Joe Helfrich, the Vice President of Sales and Operations at a company called Exent. Exent can effectively stream an entire video game over a broadband connection, live, without any effect on the end user experience. It does this by using a proprietary software package that "wraps" the game and sequences how the game is played. Then the user makes a small initial download, only a few minutes, and can begin playing the game in all of its DirectX glory.

"The game itself is played on the end user machine, as if it was locally installed and as if a CD of the game is locally available. All standard game features as well as improved usability features are fully available in both online and offline modes."

"Games can be delivered as a fully downloaded executable or via the streaming platform, which requires no installation and enables the user to enjoy the game without fully downloading it, providing faster time-to-play and an easier and friendlier user experience."

Joe showed me a demonstration on his laptop. I wanted to see Prince of Persia, a brand new game that has all the fancy bells and whistles that gamers want. He booted up his laptop, opened up his account, and began to play Prince of Persia live over the internet. I felt like I was watching Houdini escape from the water torture; it just seemed impossible.

But it's real. And the implications are incredible.



Exent, is going to sell a complete "Turnkey" solution to ISP's and in turn, the ISP's are going to host the games that have been sequenced and wrapped by Exent while you, the user, are going to purchase a special Broadband Gaming Account from your ISP for access to this service. The entire idea is to create a new revenue stream for cable and DSL companies that leverages Online Gaming as "a highly addictive service that creates a strong bond between the user and the service provider, as users typically do not want to forfeit their 'library' and 'achievements' when switching an access provider."

You see, Broadband service providers are currently selling packages with "ever-increasing download and upload speeds that stretch their margins to lower levels, to win the precious customer base, and are losing money on each customer they sell to." By basically leasing out the games that use this bandwidth, these companies are going to try and get some of that money back. The games will be protected with several layers of Digital Rights Management that I was told would be nearly impossible to break into. As we all know, piracy is a huge concern for the game industry and I think the promise of a perfect quality game experience with a air tight DRM and no distribution costs might push this technology along much faster than we would otherwise think.

But is this going to be good for the consumer? Personally, I think it will. In fact, I think this is going to be huge. Being able to play any game you want on demand, any time you want, for a flat monthly fee or even for a nominal rental fee, could be a really big deal for the industry. As the consumer we are trading physical ownership of a particular game for the ability to sample and play more content than we would otherwise have access to. All in a safe and legal environment. And let's be honest; we only play these games for a few months before they get old. I know I go though games like a baby goes though diapers. It may not appeal to the hardest of the hard core gamers, but it looks like a pretty good deal for the casual gamer who wants to play a lot of games with little or no risk of wasting his or her whole paycheck on a game he or she didn't like. Apparently a whole host of top game companies are signing on. Atari has already signed on with Exent and is currently offering games on demand at http://www.atariondemand.com. Joe didn't get into which other companies were going to be working with Exent, but he said there would be a major announcement in the next few weeks.

Nobody from Exent would comment on the Phantom Game Console. Yoav Tzruya, the VP for Products and markets Strategy said they were looking at the Phantom right now, but wouldn't say whether or not Exent's technology was being leased to Infinium. From what I saw at the Infinium demonstration, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that these companies had more to do with each other than they would like to say right now, but nothing official as of yet.

After seeing a demonstration, hearing Exent's business plan, and getting a feel for where the gaming industry is trying to head in the next few years, I think it its safe to say that Exent is going to be a major player in the future of Games on Demand. They've got a great business model and it looks like this type of plan could really appeal to a large and diverse market of gamers. If I were you, I'd call my stockbroker.

superrod - 13 Aug 2004 08:47 - 814 of 2262

im getting bored. only a few quids worth traded all week. still worth getting up early?
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