Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manuel.

Define pornography and erotica for me.

But, is what is good for the goose good for the gander?

But I can't see why the elite should not be investigated, prosecute and tried by the same judicial system as the general public.

But as you say, it may be a political action and a more sophisticated (tory) elite may wish to suppress exposure of their various proclivities.

May not look good on their party buntings.

My father is almost as big a leftie as you Fred and is no big fan of Green or any Tory but even he reckons the police or ex police are out of order on this one and should be prosecuted if possible for their actions.

Actually I think it's the first time I've ever heard my father stick up for a Tory MP !

fred - in this instance, the porn was checked out a decade ago and nothing (remotely) illegal/untoward was found in its content
indeed, the data files were instructed to be destroyed/deleted, but this was clearly not done

You knew your father?

Yeah , said he knew your mother too.

Manuel,

Re-read P 79639.

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Also, have a look at legal aspects present legislation on "porn" images and remember "one man's meat is another man's poison".

One of the problems of this area is the involvement of "sexual connotations" rather than the considering the "abuses" or "exploitations" of the "individuals", especially those who are more vulnerable due to age or other sensibilities.

It may be easier to have a simpler implementation using the latter to define laws.

As far as Damian, you, or I, are concerned, if in the course of police investigations "dubious" information or "evidence" of "criminal" activity is found which may be of relevance to potential criminal activity, it seems sensible to investigate.

(If a photo and May and a bill for the purchase of Cyanide were found in his draws it could be related to a future poisoning of a mistress, or rats in Downing Street.

(I can't quite remember what Damian himself was investigating at the time, prior to the police investigating his own activities.)

Perhaps, he also was guilty of intrusion in some form or other.

Dil.

No.

I checked my birth certificate.

Dil.

P 79644

But the most sobering thought about the comment may be that it could make you a half-brother.

God forbid.

But I have a guess, my mother's, childbearing period was over before your father was wearing nappies.

Dil
:)

There's nothing I like more than porn. Especially with loads of garlic and a bit of chilli.

Try a little of Dil's Brawn!

Dil ....

Just take those former police offices pensions away in the same way as they would if they were still in the force. Action like that will make others hesitate from taking the medias blood money.

I am glad the centre is being diverted from the Pillar of Virtue of the Conservative party.

Mind it does reflect much of the actions of the present con party leadership its camp followers.

Mind he does have the support of Plebgate Mitchell and the Insignificant D Smith of University of Perugia fame.

Standards dear boy. Standards!

Do the Police Force have any standards Fred1?

Ask those that suffer in jail because of false police evidence, and all the altered notebook cases, and judges that support them to support the system.

Clock.

In every barrel of apples, there are a few bad ones.

In general, it seems to me that the standards of police conduct have been improved over my lifetime, while that of political figures has deteriorated.

This view may be due to easy access to information on the conduct of the latter and also more openness and overview of police "actions".

If either group "operate" or behave "criminally" "knowingly" then the individuals or groups should be investigated and prosecuted after "intent" is considered.

When more gullible I have met a few plausible "villains" and also a few who may have been falsely judged.

Nothing from Fred re 'momentum group' being investigated for possible election breaches, could involve criminal charges. Must have slipped his mind as he was so vociferous towards the Tories for similar accusations.

Small beer compared with funding by neo-cons from tax havens and dual nationality benefactors.

I suppose they have to pay their taxes in some way. or other.

Have a look at Bernard Jenkin, a leading light of brexiters, "expenses" claims.

How much property does Osborne in Ireland? Have a look at his expenses claims.

How does he deal "his heir with to his family's Irish baronetcy, of Ballentaylor and Ballylemon in County Waterford".

I am sorry that the supporters of "Labour" may have transgressed their expenses.


Just a small question, how many of the tory elite are lodge members?


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Just wondering if some of the dislike of the EU by some leading lights is due to the EU trying to tighten up on the tax havens and tax avoidance.

They don't wish to be embarrassed.

The point is Fred you never criticise or condemn Labour in the same way as you do the Tories, and as for momentum being just supporters, they were responsible for putting Corbyn in as leader.