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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


insiderinside - 01 Aug 2005 00:55 - 7992 of 27111

mark - answered before.

bos - I see now - the price keeps getting ramped up the hill by brokers reports and tipsters tips - only for it to roll back down again - and then it starts again - more ramp - more promise - more "anticipate" - more tip - to get it up again - and then the big sellers come in and it comes back down again - ;-)

insiderinside - 01 Aug 2005 00:58 - 7993 of 27111

Correct PM1 - SE0 is traded on Virt-X as Epic SE01 - no trades last week as the price went up on all those RNSs - but if the shorters are now out in force again then expect trading this week on Virt-X.

insiderinside - 01 Aug 2005 03:43 - 7994 of 27111

Some more information on the DEFRA Laser sealing project - and yes as it is DEFRA they will allow many companies to use the technology - meaning loads of competition and low prices -

"The new sealing system, which can be used for ambient or chilled oven-ready
meal products, will seal lidding film to food trays using a laser - without the need for conventional tooling.
Working with other industry leaders The Recipe Dish Company, RPC
Containers Ltd, GSI Lumonics Ltd, FFP Packaging Solutions Ltd, alongside the
projects academic partners Loughborough University - Packaging Automation
has made a valuable contribution to the project.
The method used by the new system is non-contact and flexible, and will bring
numerous important benefits to the food industry including reduced tooling
costs, improved seal quality and less wastage.
Multiple tray shapes can be processed on a single production line, and fast
product changeovers can be achieved without resetting the sealing machinery.
And as an added bonus, the lidding film is cut by the laser beam once the seal
has been made.
In addition to the laser sealing, an advanced inspection system, using an
embedded signature and computer vision technique (UK Patent pending,
application no. 0427321.5), has been developed which will check the seal quality
of every pack vital in the demanding food industry where leaking trays can
cause contamination and costly recalls. Tests have shown that the laser seals
are stronger than traditional methods, but have the advantage of being easier to
peel an advantage to consumers.

There are numerous benefits evident with this new
system. With no tooling needed, production speeds can be further increased
and downtime minimised. Improved seal quality will mean fewer recalled
products and greater confidence by retailers. And there is the added benefit of
no tooling storage requirements, while tooling consumables such as heater
mats, trim blades, and thermocouples will not be required."

Now compare those easy to peel consumer friendly lids from Laser - to consumer unfriendly RF WELDED cut to open lids from Greenseal - which one is going to be the winner ??

Lots of benefits and an inclusive vision inspection system - now thats something that will seriously save money for suppliers and lead to consumers never getting a bad sealed food tray - and yes - Greenseal does still do bad seals - just a lower percentage than traditional heat sealing.

The DEFRA profject is most certainly a major threat to Greenseal - and in fact the benefits are more - can you see why the uptake on Greenseal is so slow - why buy something new now - when you can wait a little longer and get someone even better.

What does this mean - perhaps only a few suppliers will convert a few machines for dedicated Asda lines - and thats it.

The poster of the so called email - never got a reply on the Laser Project - they simply cut and paste one small part of the write up on Laser and said thats it.

How SE0 in that email can compare Laser WELDING and RF WELDING I do not know - they should compare Laser SEALING with RF WELDING - when the finally get a chance to see the new sealing machine and what technology it uses - they are blind - and spouting crap IMO.

As you can see from the write up - Laser Sealing creates easy to peel lids - this is NOT WELDING - WELDING means as its name - non peel welded joints.

Now for them to come out with that comparison of WELDING when Laser is SEALING and the Greenseal RF is WELDING- it shows just how worried they are !!!

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 07:13 - 7995 of 27111

this guy sounds like another terry robbins

Stanelco plc ('Stanleco')

Director Appointment

Stanelco plc, the RF applications Group, is delighted to announce the
appointment of Martin Wagner as Commercial Director of Stanelco RF Technologies
Ltd with a remit to assist in the commercialisation of Stanelco's food packaging
technologies including GREENSEAL and Starpol 2000.

Martin was previously Head of Packaging Development at ASDA Stores Limited where
he has spent the last 5 years heading up a number of different commercial teams
delivering both significant savings to the business and leading ground breaking
strategic initiatives, and was directly involved in ASDA's adoption of the
GREENSEAL technology project. Martin brings to Stanelco his experience of
working directly in the food and beverage supply industry as well as the
healthcare and pharmaceutical industries at director level.

GREENSEAL is Stanelco's technology for sealing lids on to food trays and sealing
thermoformed food packs. Almost all heat-sealing requires the use of laminated
materials; these are up to 20% more expensive and uneconomic to recycle.
GREENSEAL works on more environmentally responsible materials that are lower
cost and economic to recycle. In addition GREENSEAL can seal through
contamination of the seal area, solving the major cause of rejected product.

Starpol 2000 is a range of low cost, food contact approved, biodegradable
materials that can be run on conventional thermoforming equipment to form food
packaging. Trays made from this material are suitable for MAP (modified
Atmosphere Packaging) used to preserve food quality and extend shelf life.

Martin Wagner commented:

'I am looking forward in particular to making a major contribution to the
adoption of Stanelco's GREENSEAL Technology and Starpol 2000 packaging materials
within the food and retailing industries.'

Ian Balchin, CEO Stanelco plc commented:

'We are delighted that Martin has accepted this role. Martin is superbly placed
to assist us in optimising the delivery of GREENSEAL to ASDA and other
customers. In addition, Martin's appointment will help us with our planning for
the prospect of a significant take up of our Starpol 2000 material within the
retail sector.'

Ends

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 07:22 - 7996 of 27111

ruthie, i think you called it cock-on. ii and sisyphus, one and the same. i know what sisyphus did , but what did ii do to displease the gods so much that they gave him such a harsh and pointless task of constantly repeating himself?

niceonecyril - 01 Aug 2005 07:37 - 7997 of 27111

Another great bit of news,
especially the,Martins appointment will help us with our planning for the prospect
of a "significant" take up of our Starpol 2000 material within the retail sector.
It just gets better.
cyril

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 07:59 - 7998 of 27111

i agree , cyril, it does keep getting better. another piece of the jigsaw, strengthening of the team. we still need orders though. and soon!

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 08:03 - 7999 of 27111

sorry

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 08:03 - 8000 of 27111

i just wanted 8k for myself

niceonecyril - 01 Aug 2005 08:10 - 8001 of 27111

Pointed out by another poster, this would have been agreed between
ASDA and SEO as contracts would not allow poaching of personel.
So perhaps, WALMART?.
cyril

Biscuit - 01 Aug 2005 08:28 - 8002 of 27111

I very much doubt contracts would mention poaching of staff. However I doubt Walmart is far away.

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 08:48 - 8003 of 27111

so that's two heads of packaging now who have left nice , safe cushy jobs working for major supermarkets to go and work for seo. we really have backed something special here, i think.

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 09:06 - 8004 of 27111

this is all i could find so far on martin wagner. looks like he was a key note speaker last june at a packaging and design conference in nice. so he knows his stuff...

"10:05 Keeping packaging innovation at the forefront of own label brands Understanding the importance of packaging to private label brands An overview of innovation with Asda own label brands The issues that effect packaging decisions within Asda Packaging and the move towards corporate social responsibility (CSR), a retailers perspective Martin Wagner, Buying Manager, ASDA, "

driver - 01 Aug 2005 09:36 - 8005 of 27111

bos
More good news he looks like the right choice, I will have a dig later and see if I can find any thing else on him.

TANKER - 01 Aug 2005 10:22 - 8006 of 27111

yes .more good news. mrw is going to be a great share to buy now

bosley - 01 Aug 2005 10:38 - 8007 of 27111

why is that, tanker?

stockdog - 01 Aug 2005 10:48 - 8008 of 27111

'cos tanker says so - qed!

TANKER - 01 Aug 2005 10:48 - 8009 of 27111

at least.50p under valued.will now start to rise very quickly.

bhunt1910 - 01 Aug 2005 12:32 - 8010 of 27111

Afternnon all - just catching up after having a big family BBQ on Saturday in pouring rain and a supurb Wedding yesterday for my niece.
Just returned - desperately i n need of sleep - but found this piece on another BB. Again hope the contributor does not mind me lifting it.

"thecouloir


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Sorry for the delay Ladies and Gentlemen but here is the US patent information:-

1.)The tray which is used for red meat is called Durafresh and the US patent which has beeen granted is 6.430.467.The bottom of the tray also states that other patents are pending.I suspect that the patent relates to the tray being usable in the microwave and dishwasher but why you would want to use it in such a way is beyond me! Anyway if someone can reserach the patent at the US patents office it would be interesting.

Having visited several Walmarts on the Eastern Seaboard when my schedule permits my impressions for what they are worth are as follows:-

2.)Terry Robbins on the few ocassions that I have met him has consistently stated that the UK is several years advanced on the US in terms of food packaging technology.From what I have seen I would agree.The tray above is 2 material laminated plastic so I am assuming it is not recyleable.It must be 6-7 times thicker than the Stanelco tray.The sealing rim is nearly 1/2 cm wide and the heat seal nearly a half of that.Poultry and Fish are not even in Plastic trays but polystyrene foam where the seal is not on the lid but on the bottom via the cover itself.From memory these trays are classic leakers.

3.)the average Walmart store really is something to see in terms of its size,the goods stocked and prices.For example the clothing section alone would be bigger than the average Uk store.The basic proposition is price and for the average middle to low income american family they must be a godsend.There are no federal or state laws that I have been able to find that dictate that retailers must sell at MRSP;Walmart offers the lowest prices guaranteed.It really is the American peoples store.

4.)From memory the Walmart supply chain in NAFTA uses close to 5,500 tray lidding machines.At $50,000 saving per tray lidding machine to Walmart that is $250m of supply chain savings that flow to the bottom line.If Walmart want this technology forget the environmental stuff!;I would expect Walmart to ruthlessly enforce this technology with their supply chain as they must have incredible buying power

5.)One final impression is the US/Uk relationship.Regardless of your views on the UK's support for the War on Terror my perception is that it has solidified the anglo-american relationship to an extent that I have never seen before.The average American is so pro Uk it is hard to believe.As an American Lady said to me the other day we are "one nation divided by the same language".The converse is also true;French wine has all but disappeared from restaurant wine lists!!!!!!

Therefore in summary I feel that if the Greenseal technology is as good as we are told and in particular if it has the commercial footprint that we are told;I see no reason to prevent Stanelco doing a deal with Walmart?!

And if Howard White can pull such a deal off(and i make no judgement here as to his ability to do that although he is clearly a talented and able businessman)then IMHO it will be mind blowing.Even peeps with a few thousand shares will do very nicely;for long termer SEO PI's with substantial shareholdings it does not bear thinking about!!!!!!!!!

No ramps meant or intended with this post,DYOR but this is hugely exciting."

Baza

paulmasterson1 - 01 Aug 2005 13:26 - 8011 of 27111

Found this old snippet ....

Martin Wagner, of Asda Stores, will consider the impact of e-commerce on packaging and related products in the retail sector

http://www.dotpackaging.com/whats_on/newsroom/01_01_23.shtml
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