Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I don't like Ruth Davidson.

fred - i know you love being a supercilious knob, which role you have certainly perfected ..... nevertheless, you refusal to give a straight answer to a straight question goes to show what a waste of time it is to try to have even a half-way sensible discussion with you


dil - out of curiosity, why not?

Sod it, it wont come up, but worth a look..


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/22/the-billionaires-guide-to-surviving-global-warming-with-ian-the-climate-denialist-potato

From the referendum thread
cynic - 17 Jan 2018 13:47 - 8498 of 8506

''have you guys not yet learned that fred will always argue that black is white, and if you then agree, he'll change tack and say no, white is black''

Someone needs to take their own advice

am i really that bad? ....... sorry :-(
to be honest, i thought i was pretty consistent, even if the observations are rubbish

She's a remoaner cynic and comes across as arrogant to me.

at least you have a reason and are happy to state it, unlike fred who won't actually voice anything

at this juncture, it should be remebered that Ruth Davidson was fighting for seats excluysively in scotland ..... scotland, for whatever reasons, voted overwhelmingly to stay in eu
it follows that RD (currently) has an obligation to fight that corner, just as TM has an obligation to fight to remove us from eu, for that was the countrywide majority view

what i like about RD is that she is cast from a very different mold from the perceived typical tory mp or even (potential) leader ...... that can be no bad thing

Well if that's true cynic then someone should tell the Labour dickhead in charge of the Welsh Assembley that Wales voted out.

He is definitely not speaking on behalf of those who elected him or the majority of the Welsh nation.

He obviously feels under no obligation to fight for what we voted for , bit like Corby and his loonies.

momentum (+ corbyn) has a very different agenda from the true voting public ...... better hope that they all wake up in time, or we'll be back in the dark days of 70s or worse with the country being run by the militant unions



back in about 1920, the bolsheviks under lenin and stalin etc, also refused to admit that their dream of collective agriculture (and ultimately industry) was a complete and utter catastrophe, resulting in endemic hunger throughout russia, and genocide by imposed famine in the ukraine

unfortunately, it took a further 50 years for that system and mentality to collapse, though in part, it still lingers on

While Ruth Davidson stays in Scotland and speaks English (be it with an accent), the lass has done well, by kicking Labour into touch and sending Nicola Sturgeon`s ambitions and divisive Battle Cry`s to the bottom of Loch Lomand, those cry`s will soon become just another folk story like Nessie. All just fishy stories like Ruth being a real remoaner, more like a vote catcher at any price, like clot Corbyn`s promises of utopia.

so would you like to see RD as a contender as and when a leadership election becomes due?

I certainly would cynic, she is a breath of fresh air up here.

Is this the 1922 committee? She has enough to do up there keeping the other tomboy in check. Personally, after Blair, Bruin and Cameron, I have had enough of Scots making a mess down here. Exception is Alex Young, he can stay. Rebuild the wall...

Well, I'm actually a Jacob Rees-Mogg fan and want to see an increase in Moggmentum.

And since the Brexit Bill is moving up into the H of L later this month, let's move things forward a bit and also shut down the power and voices of the Remainers, who are undoubtedly set on massively watering things down, with, say 200 more Tory peers in the H of L.

RD a contender! She may fill her seat in Scotland but all of sound mind and body would just want her to stay where she belongs and keep those loonies on the left, together with those that think England owes them, bound up in their posh skirts and bum bags for the next few decades.

Exec.

I think there are enough moggies in Downing Street already.

Although there does seem to be an increasing number of rats there.

Not sure whether Jacob would increase the number of the latter, or not!

But surely the new leader of the neo-cons is:

Here's some more 'fresh thoughts' from my hero:

Trade deals are 'a distraction' from real benefits of Brexit - Jacob Rees-Mogg
From 'Politicshome.com'
Written by: John Ashmore
Posted On: 23rd January 2018

Leading Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has dismissed the importance of forging new trade deals, calling them a "distraction" from the main benefits of leaving the EU.

The Tory backbencher, who heads up the eurosceptic European Research Group of MPs, said the most important aspect of leaving the bloc was removing tariffs on imported goods such as clothing and food.

Clothing from outside the EU currently attracts a tariff of 11.8%, while footwear is slightly lower at 11.4%.

The North East Somerset MP said the idea trade deals would make a big contribution to post-Brexit economic success was a "red herring", pointing out that the UK's biggest single trading partner is the United States, with whom we do not have a trade deal.

The comments may come as a surprise to Trade Secretary Liam Fox, who has been jetting around the world over the last 18 months laying the groundwork for post-Brexit deals with non-EU countries.

"I think the trade deal issue is a bit of a red herring. Our biggest individual national trading partner is the US, with whom we have no trade deal," he told the Daily Politics.

Mr Rees-Mogg, who is a firm favourite among the Tory grassroots, argued the Government should pursue a unilateral free trade policy, similar to countries such as Singapore and Australia.

"Can I get back to why trade deals are a distraction, because I think this is important. The real benefit we get is from lifting tariffs on goods that come into this country and non-tariff barriers. That makes the UK more competitive, it makes goods for consumers cheaper," he said.

"Unilateral free trade has worked in every country that has tried it, historically. Trade deals are an add-on benefit and if you open up your markets you then go to people and say 'we've opened up our market, do you want to open up yours?' that then helps trade even further.

"But the benefits you get by reducing your input costs and the costs of consumption of voters across the country is very economically powerful. "

Yep he does talk a lot of sense Exec but I do think he may lack popular appeal among the electorate.

I'd vote for him.