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Traders Thread - Friday 12th December (MTN)
Crocodile - 11 Dec 2003 22:10
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Melnibone - 12 Dec 2003 08:44 - 8 of 28
Morning all,
I see we got the opposite of what I wanted.
I dislike these gap open highers.
I won't chase them. The market hit R2 and bounced back,
so maybe there's a lot of traders of the same disposition.
Just going to watch for a bit to see if I can figure out
what's going on. If the FTSE really wanted to jump higher
it would have used the DOW close above 10,000 as an excuse.
Instead it's retracing back already.
I don't think there's a lot of appetite for risk this near
the year end.
Melnibone.
I see we got the opposite of what I wanted.
I dislike these gap open highers.
I won't chase them. The market hit R2 and bounced back,
so maybe there's a lot of traders of the same disposition.
Just going to watch for a bit to see if I can figure out
what's going on. If the FTSE really wanted to jump higher
it would have used the DOW close above 10,000 as an excuse.
Instead it's retracing back already.
I don't think there's a lot of appetite for risk this near
the year end.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 09:56
- 9 of 28
Morning all
Just trying out Moneyams free "Terminal" offer. Taken a while to set it up, like having access to all the different bits of info, on one screen - but really need a biger screen - infact a couple of screens would be even better - but I don't think thats going to happen!
Just trying out Moneyams free "Terminal" offer. Taken a while to set it up, like having access to all the different bits of info, on one screen - but really need a biger screen - infact a couple of screens would be even better - but I don't think thats going to happen!
Melnibone - 12 Dec 2003 10:10 - 10 of 28
S2 has held twice, now we're testing S1.
Glad I decided not to chase the open.
I've even got out of my BT.A's.
Don't trust this at all. I know it was posted this week
that there is an 87% chance of a Christmas rally,
but that other 13% has to come from somewhere.;-)
It's like flipping a coin and saying that because it
came up Heads 87 times in the last 100 flips that it
will come up Heads again.
In reality it has a 50/50 chance, same as it always has.
Because of the history, everyone was expecting a dive
in September or October. It didn't happen.
Ftse doesn't look that strong to me and the 30 strong DOW
is too easily manipulated.
Time to go into chicken mode and protect this years gains.
Melnibone.
Glad I decided not to chase the open.
I've even got out of my BT.A's.
Don't trust this at all. I know it was posted this week
that there is an 87% chance of a Christmas rally,
but that other 13% has to come from somewhere.;-)
It's like flipping a coin and saying that because it
came up Heads 87 times in the last 100 flips that it
will come up Heads again.
In reality it has a 50/50 chance, same as it always has.
Because of the history, everyone was expecting a dive
in September or October. It didn't happen.
Ftse doesn't look that strong to me and the 30 strong DOW
is too easily manipulated.
Time to go into chicken mode and protect this years gains.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 10:47
- 11 of 28
I came to the conclusion that the market didn't dive in sept/oct because things are so bad out there as we fear. I heard someone make an interesting comment during a discussion about the chancellors recent speech.
Something to the effect of, that Companies have reduced borrowing and been strengthing balance sheets, but individuals had increased borrowing which is what has been keeping the economy going - which together is not a bad thing.
Something to the effect of, that Companies have reduced borrowing and been strengthing balance sheets, but individuals had increased borrowing which is what has been keeping the economy going - which together is not a bad thing.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 11:35
- 12 of 28
The rest of europe seem to be doing well today
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 11:51
- 13 of 28
Thought this was interesting (I know I'm sad!):
NEW YORK (AFX) - Funds investing primarily in U.S. stocks took in $4.3 billion in new money during the week ending Dec. 10, estimates Trim Tabs director of research Carl Wittnebert, after taking in $1.6 billion the week before. International equity funds had inflows of $500 million, vs. inflows of $100 million the prior week. Bonds funds took in $800 million, down from inflows of $1.2 billion.
This story was supplied by CBSMarketWatch. For further information see www.cbsmarketwatch.com.
NEW YORK (AFX) - Funds investing primarily in U.S. stocks took in $4.3 billion in new money during the week ending Dec. 10, estimates Trim Tabs director of research Carl Wittnebert, after taking in $1.6 billion the week before. International equity funds had inflows of $500 million, vs. inflows of $100 million the prior week. Bonds funds took in $800 million, down from inflows of $1.2 billion.
This story was supplied by CBSMarketWatch. For further information see www.cbsmarketwatch.com.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 13:49
- 14 of 28
Well this is an exciting day. Sitting here doing my christmas cards and watching the market ????? Well a few things are doing rather well but overall, pretty boring..........
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 13:49
- 15 of 28
Almost as much fun as watching paint dry!
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 14:02
- 16 of 28
PTI doing rather well - not sure why as todays news should not make the price go up (down maybe but not up) Maybe I'm missing something.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 14:12
- 17 of 28
LONDON (AFX) - UK new residential property completions in the year to March 2003 stood at 183,993 units, up from 175,663 in the previous one year period, according to figures released by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister.
In England, 137,981 units were completed in the year to March 2003, up from 130,050 in the previous one year period.
In Wales, the corresponding figure was at 7,915, down from 8,273 units in the year to March 2002, while in Scotland 23,946 units were completed in the year to March 2003, up from 23,853 units in the previous one year period.
In England, 137,981 units were completed in the year to March 2003, up from 130,050 in the previous one year period.
In Wales, the corresponding figure was at 7,915, down from 8,273 units in the year to March 2002, while in Scotland 23,946 units were completed in the year to March 2003, up from 23,853 units in the previous one year period.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 14:40
- 18 of 28
NEW YORK (AFX) - The 'Diamonds' , a tracking stock for the Dow industrials , edged up 3 cents to $100.41 in pre-open trading. The Dow rose 86 points to 10,008 Thursday, the first close above the 10,000 level since May 2002. Among Dow components seeing activity ahead of the opening bell, Microsoft edged up 9 cents to $26.70, Wal-Mart added a dime to $52.91, Intel advanced 15 cents to $31.06 and Home Depot was 22 cents better at $34.75.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 14:41
- 19 of 28
It looks like the gap between the UK & the US matkets is getting bigger
Melnibone - 12 Dec 2003 14:53 - 20 of 28
Phew! Going down at last.
Was Beginning to wonder if I had called this wrong.
Consumer confidence giving the excuse for profit taking.
Reading down at 89.6.
Melnibone.
Was Beginning to wonder if I had called this wrong.
Consumer confidence giving the excuse for profit taking.
Reading down at 89.6.
Melnibone.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 14:58
- 21 of 28
NEW YORK (AFX) - U.S. stock futures were looking flat to slightly positive early Friday, searching for direction following a strong rally that lifted the Dow to its first close above 10,000 since late May of 2002.
Investors were mulled an unexpected decline in producer prices that adds to the perception that inflation is being held at bay as the economy recovers. This news follows Thursday's release of the minutes of the October meeting of the Federal Reserve's open market committee that revealed the central bankers expect inflation to remain tame for the foreseeable future.
However, the trade deficit came in wider than economists were expecting.
Investors were mulled an unexpected decline in producer prices that adds to the perception that inflation is being held at bay as the economy recovers. This news follows Thursday's release of the minutes of the October meeting of the Federal Reserve's open market committee that revealed the central bankers expect inflation to remain tame for the foreseeable future.
However, the trade deficit came in wider than economists were expecting.
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 15:19
- 22 of 28
PIC is up 10% but the spread is nearly 10% too! Looks like the MM cannot agree on the price, they wont lower the offer price or raise the bid price. Pretty bad for this time of day, by now the spread is normally nowhere near this bad!
Pick a few up yesterday sub 50p and would like to cash in a bit near the offer than it is at the moment!
Pick a few up yesterday sub 50p and would like to cash in a bit near the offer than it is at the moment!
apple - 12 Dec 2003 15:59 - 23 of 28
OXB up 7.5%
Maybe its time has come?
Anyone know why?
Maybe its time has come?
Anyone know why?
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 16:13
- 24 of 28
I have a watch list which is supposed to be for pharmaceuticals (& other medical) shares. Today all the companies not in the FTSE100 are doing well - with the ones with the lowest share prices doing the best. It makes me wonder if money is being switched out of GSK & AZN into the small companies?
apple - 12 Dec 2003 16:24 - 25 of 28
Thanks
ThePlayboy
- 12 Dec 2003 17:01
- 26 of 28
MONDAY FTSE PP
R2 4385
R1 4366
PP 4348
S1 4329
S2 4311
Fri close on R2 after gaining2.8pts in the auction!
WEEKLY FTSE PP
R2 4451
R1 4399
PP 4356
S1 4304
S2 4261
Close was below the weekly pp!
For next week still in the trading range, uptrend still intact at 4430 with 4280 the next level! Uptrend seems to be targeting 4450 which is weekly R2 if the 83%(not my fig) chance of the Xmas rally begins! 2 day ftse chart in an uptrend off Thu low, brk of uptrend at 4335, continuation of trend targeting 4380 with a clear brk of Fri res at 4365 imho!
Have a good weekend all!
R2 4385
R1 4366
PP 4348
S1 4329
S2 4311
Fri close on R2 after gaining2.8pts in the auction!
WEEKLY FTSE PP
R2 4451
R1 4399
PP 4356
S1 4304
S2 4261
Close was below the weekly pp!
For next week still in the trading range, uptrend still intact at 4430 with 4280 the next level! Uptrend seems to be targeting 4450 which is weekly R2 if the 83%(not my fig) chance of the Xmas rally begins! 2 day ftse chart in an uptrend off Thu low, brk of uptrend at 4335, continuation of trend targeting 4380 with a clear brk of Fri res at 4365 imho!
Have a good weekend all!
little woman
- 12 Dec 2003 17:33
- 27 of 28
thanks PB
- I'm off (except to enter GD shares comp over the weekend) until market open Monday - everyone have a good weekend - don't forget to relax.
- I'm off (except to enter GD shares comp over the weekend) until market open Monday - everyone have a good weekend - don't forget to relax.
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