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Traders Thread 22nd June 2004 (CROC)     

Martini - 21 Jun 2004 21:57

 

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Fundamentalist - 22 Jun 2004 08:01 - 8 of 16

Morning all

jj50 - 22 Jun 2004 08:56 - 9 of 16

Morning all.

Douggie - 22 Jun 2004 09:06 - 10 of 16

mornin all

Melnibone - 22 Jun 2004 09:59 - 11 of 16

Morning all,

Nothing has changed. I'd post a Ftse P&F chart, but it hasn't
changed since the last one I posted when Noah was a lad.
So there's not a lot of point.

Doing the same as the market and just scalping pennies.

OOM seems to be near support to me. I've an idea it's been dragged
down by VOD which is trying to break the 124p support.

Today will be all down as whether the S@P can get back above 1132.
If not then it needs to hold 1128 or all the Indices will take a little
slide. All IMHO, as usual, and not trading predictions, just what
I'm looking at for some sort of guidance.

Melnibone.

zarif - 22 Jun 2004 12:05 - 12 of 16

Tom Hougards email fot todays analysis.

Good morning,



I got the downside I was looking for in the NASDAQ. Stops are in. I still got today as a down day as well, but I am wary that there was a spill-over from the cycle and I got most of the downside yesterday. I still would like to see 1420 in the NASDAQ and will run the position. The problem (there are always problems in the market and things to watch out for J ) I have is the month-end pattern. We have 7 days left of the month and the quarter. In this time period we tend to see the market make an effort to push higher to mark up Wall Streets portfolios. It is common practise and something you should be aware of.



Technically I would say to you that as long as the market is below 1142 but above 1132 in the SP500 the market is neutral and is just market time. A move above is bullish and a move below is bearish. Yesterday we tried for the 1128 but held. You may recall that the 1128 was the support area from the decline earlier in the month, funnily enough also on a Monday!!



1132 will now be new resistance I would expect traders come in and defend the 1128 today. I doubt very much anyone is interested in lower prices but if it does trade lower short positions are required and the first target is 1122 and then 1108.



The key will be the financials like banks and brokers. Many of them are reporting shortly, and most of them have had sizeable declines since the February highs. I would watch this group closely. You should also pay attention to the old generals like GE and MSFT. When the Dow drops 80 points intra-day and those two still hold up for the day, it is a sign of strength.



So the conclusion is unfortunately a mixed bag. I am short NASDAQ. I suspect that the SP500 will not attract any major selling until we are below 1128. There is very little to add.



IBM is a very interesting stock to follow. It tracks the big indices very well and has beautiful patterns and cycles. IBM is in a make-or-break situation. The blue line shows that IBM traded above this price level of $90 for 3 years. In April 2002 IBM broke $90 in a gap down which took 94 weeks to fill. The challenge is always to trade what you see and not what you think. It is even better to trade with the idea that you have to second-guess what they are thinking. In this case they are the big funds. IBM is a real bell weather and tracks the economic cycle well. I have included the volume figures for the chart as well. We are right at the critical $89/90 price level. The chart pattern is bullish but the volume is telling a different story. It points out that the last years rally has been on declining volume. That is not a bullish sign but you got to give the pattern the benefit of the doubt. If the latter part of the year is bullish I think IBM will perform well and regain $100. Use the $89 as a pivot. Have you ever heard the saying: Dont short a dull market? That is my concern here. We are simply doing nothing because no one really wants to sell and everyone is holding out for the summer rally.



Well, you are prepared price wise. Just follow the levels given in the SP500 and use prudent stops.



Tom



Melnibone - 22 Jun 2004 13:08 - 13 of 16

Took the OOM profit on that last bounce.
Just over 1% profit in a few hours will do in these markets.
I'll take anything I can get.

Waiting for US direction now.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 22 Jun 2004 13:13 - 14 of 16

Just read your TomH. post Zarif.

He's looking at exactly the same levels I quoted this morning.
That would indicate that the majority of traders are looking
to trade the same levels.

God forbid that we end up with a 4 point trading range on the
S&P this afternoon with the odd point foray either side of it.

That really would turn me comatose.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 22 Jun 2004 15:07 - 15 of 16

Half an hour gone and the S&P is stuck bang in the middle
of the 1128/1132 range after a brief foray to test the 1128
support.

Yawn.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 22 Jun 2004 16:10 - 16 of 16

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RBS down on support.
This is the level it dropped down to when it announced it's
latest proposed purchase and a share issue to help pay for it.

Melnibone.
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