looks that way ..... interesting day ahead


ains

Moneylender
Would you mind explaining how 6m buys just widened the spread down?

Perhaps you will give us your take on the days trades Martini?


ains

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ainsoph
Any ideas on the large trades recently and how they all manage mid price or better?
Guru 1 1/4

ainsoph
I don't have a view. I was interested in why Moneylender seemed so sure they were all buys.
Maybe you could explain, as you appeared to agree?

Martini

My initial reaction was that they were buys, as they were different sizes and with different brokers.
However after looking at the trades of the last few days, i have come to the conclusion that they are a roll over.
Short or long, who knows? I know what I think.

Whats your view on them?

M

Moneylender
I would agree that a roll over with a net change to the position of 750k shares seems more plausible.
A short roll over would appear favourite judging by the last few weeks price action and maybe a net closing of the short to reduce the exposure by 750k on the last few days trades could account for the difference in the size of the trades.
I will hang on to my punt from 5.7p and await developments.
Always a sucker for this share - high risk though.

Martini

Your scenario above is running parrallel with my own.
High risk, maybe, but with the potential of very high returns.
I would definately hold on if I were you, even if only for another 3 weeks.
personally I believe next week will be fruitfull. We will see.

M

DYOR

BEWARE!

ainsoph is up to his old tricks again and posting under several nicknames on this thread, he is often having conversations with himself, to convince and trick the novice investor into thinking that there are lots of posters who are bullish on TAD:

Thankfully, due to the 'code of conduct' on this site he cannot bully and abuse those who disagree with him, or spam the threads of shorters who take a different view, like he does on ADVFN, but even they have had enough of him and have removed several of his posts today!

LOL, which ones Gdub?

Gdub
Thanks for the warning.
Do such things go on?
I am shocked!
Does this mean I can't believe everything I see posted on a BB?
Regards
M

As there are only a few posters on this thread I must be either snappy or Gdub ..... hmmmmmmm ..... what a fate ...... I wonder who will get the red card first


Martini

Have you ignored the 750k on the 04/02

I don't agree with moneylender at all - he thinks that Microsoft may be buying - I do not. I have been looking at the trades over the last few weeks and in particular the odd ones from 100k upwards - there are over 60 in the last three weeks. Overall I believe there are substantial active shorts from around the 7/8p level and below. I think some have been closed at a loss and some have been rolled over. I suspect the two trades yesterday were another rollover.


ains

Martini

lol!

Don't be a smart arse, or I'll make Dil talk to you for hours about peanut hugging!
Besides, this is a new site which has probably attracted novice investors from 'Shares mag'. They need to be warned about ains.


ainsoph

Don't get cocky sonny, it's obvious you are trying to ingratiate yourself on this site by creeping around certain posters as if 'butter wouldn't melt'.
Your behaviour on ADVFN is a disgrace and the TAD threads over there resemble a verbal cess pit....and it's your doing! You are the most despised poster in BB history and there are a 1000 posters who'd like to see you get a permanent red card from every BB site.


snappy

'moneylender' is a known ainsoph alias. Plus ADVFN removed several posts by ains on the 'tank' thread today. He continually spams the shorters threads because they dare to disagree with him and they've taken all his money!

I guess we will soon see if the management take their rules seriously or not Gdub



ains

A classic, and conclusive proof that Ainsoph is NOT Moneylender!

"I don't agree with moneylender at all - he thinks that Microsoft may be buying - I do not." - Ainsoph


Don't agree? Then punch his lights out sonny! ;-))


On a completely different and (of course) unrelated theme, perhaps MoneyAM will take the issue of multiple aliases seriously and nip any abuse in the bud. Otherwise we all know where it leads. Are all these names registered on premium services as well (on either side)? I doubt it.

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Nice to see the invite is from MS toohas to be something going on between these two hope it brings in some money down the line :0)

The collaboration with MS HP and many others makes me believe things are moving ahead ,for those with patience this could be the year tadpole takes off.imho
Tris

Hi Tris

Thought I would post the whole of that invite.

I particularly like this bit.

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Endeavors Technology and Microsoft Corporation invite you
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M



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Yep nice ML..Guess whos coming to dinner :0)
Tris