goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
VICTIM
- 02 Feb 2018 14:10
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That was the situation i was referring to Iturama , i'm just wondering who are the individuals trying to scupper our exit from Euroland , hope some Press are on it . There must be a story to tell .
cynic
- 02 Feb 2018 14:44
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fred - you would say DYOR, but i shan't .....
the evil definition of communism was embodied in the likes of lenin and stalin, and subsequnetly mao (i guess) ...... that was partly why i suggested you read Red Famine
the israeli (laudable?) version was embodied in the kibbutzim,and still is to some extent ..... this works while there is a common cause as embraced by the people themselves and not forced upon them "from above" ...... however, the israeli version is also now crumbling for all sorts of reasons which are not of concern or interest in this discussion
please note, that unlike you, i at least try to answer the question asked and not the one you wish had been asked .... for sure you were told the importance of that at school
Clocktower
- 02 Feb 2018 15:22
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Fred just likes playing Devils Advocate, and does it well, and Trump is doing a great job tearing down the towers of the historic ownership of power.
2517GEORGE
- 02 Feb 2018 15:29
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When Trump first came to power and sacked that FBI dude I thought what a crazy thing to do, but seems he could have had good reason after all.
No offence meant, but I hope you don't win this month's competition Clocktower.
Clocktower
- 02 Feb 2018 15:34
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LOL George - But falling at a rate of knots now, that if it keeps up the pace, might yet look optimistic as the fall is long overdue.
Look for solid performers and play the Trump card.
jimmy b
- 02 Feb 2018 15:42
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cynic....................
indeed, though i spend little time on this thread
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Your on here arguing with Fred more than anyone while preaching that folk on here shouldn't bother with him .
cynic
- 02 Feb 2018 15:56
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only in recent days to give my brain a break from some tricky contracts and similar
anyway, i felt like throwing a pebble in the pond, as i mentioned earlier
btw, you misrepresent me ..... i have said that you guys should (a) spend more time on threads dealing with shares and (b) should not allow fred to rile you ....... it is others who say peeps should not waste time on fred
jimmy b
- 02 Feb 2018 16:04
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It's the same thing cynic you just twisted it like a politician, i very rarely post on here to Fred for the very reason that he is just here to disagree.
Fred1new
- 02 Feb 2018 17:36
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Manuel.
I think as you get older you are rapidly becoming more confused.
I do not think what Stalin, Lenin or Mao practised was communism.
The problem with communism is that it has to compete with the natural instincts, traits and culture of those it may be applied to.
To me the above were dictators who were prepared to put any scruples they may have had at one time or other behind them and acted for their own benefit, security and acclamation and "deluded" belief that the end justifies the means.
Looking at the tory elite and to some degree, the leaders of the other main parties and I am sure that the same or similar traits are apparent.
But many of the said followers of said "Communism" in the 20s, 30s. 40s and 50s were as deluded as many of the Brexiters, neo-cons and Ukippers are now.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2018 20:51
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keep up the bullshit and denial and distortion fred ... perhaps you'll even believe in it yourself one day, though i don't think you'll ever learn to give a straight answer
Fred1new
- 02 Feb 2018 21:16
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Manuel.
I think you are rapidly losing your ability to distinguish fact from opinion or fiction and certainly, you seem to overvalue your own opinions.
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Dow Jones down by 2.62%.
VICTIM
- 03 Feb 2018 08:30
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Dow Jones down by 2.62% what a pompous arse .
cynic
- 03 Feb 2018 08:44
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not so in that instance, but a simple statement of fact
i think numerically, DOW dumped 660 points apparently from fear of escalating inflation
it'll be interesting to see where BITCOINS lie in say a month's time
i think at their recent peak a couple of weeks back they were $15,000 and now languish at $8,800
anyway, as i posted just now in FTSE thread ........
monday must surely be a total bloodbath
there'll be an awful lot of forced sales and the like, so if you're brave, there could be a good chance to make some money on the bounce as the dust settles
VICTIM
- 03 Feb 2018 08:57
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I know that cynic but , you know that he knows why he knows he knows i know that you know he knows i know why he wrote it , you know? .
cynic
- 03 Feb 2018 09:14
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to be honest, i don't know why fred posted about the DOW here
perhaps he (gleefully) sees armageddon for the capitalist world, even if he does play with capitalist toys
a very severe correction may well now be on the cards, though no one actually knows
there's good reason for it - DOW stocks are arguably miles ahead of the game - but there is no obvious sensible alternative for private and pension fund money and the like
VICTIM
- 03 Feb 2018 09:26
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Just being frivolous really , but with Freda there's always , look what's happening because of May , Trump , Brexit , Boris etc etc etc .
cynic
- 03 Feb 2018 09:59
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that's a goldfinger (3i) trait as well
fred's actually an intelligent guy, but i'm afraid i can rarely be bothered with his nonsense, not least because of his refusal to give straight answers to straight questions ...... generally, i can readily find better ways to waste my time than going round and round in pretty much the same circles
i think his father was a trades union official or somesuch, so it's easy to see how he learnt his ways ...... so very glad i never had to deal with them .... we just treat our staff well, and a result, there are few who have been with us for less than 5 years
iturama
- 03 Feb 2018 10:12
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Gizza job C.
Fred posts something worth reading once in a blue moon. Life is too short for that.
cynic
- 03 Feb 2018 10:26
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you're welcome to deal with some of the more slippery clients we have :-)
at the moment we have one who likes to quote contract terms at us when it suits .... have just clobbered him similarly, and he doesn't like it all
iturama
- 03 Feb 2018 10:48
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Send in L/Cpl Jones. They don't like it up 'em y'know. Cold steel: concentrates the mind.