Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Well we know how many previous forecasts turned out to be badly wrong. I suppose it depends on whether the forecasters were 'Remain' or 'Leave' voters, all eager to promote their views.

To put that into some sort of perspective as Remembrance Sunday approaches, almost 20,000 young British men were killed on the Somme on the first day of the so called Battle of Albert. They thought they were fighting for freedom only for successive governments, led by equally stupid leaders as those during WW1, to give away willingly far more than those young men could ever have imagined.

I would prefer peace to plundering.

Mind it is OK when the price of war is paid with other peoples' lives.

I wasn't aware that the right to trade freely with your nearest neighbours, and the right to clean air and beaches was a 'willing give away', iturama.

Or maybe it's the thought of all that smelly cheese and garlic that you're objecting to?

:o)

Fancy lunch? :o)

Hilary,

Are you trying to flirt or tease me with that image?

Drive into London, Birmingham, Bradford or any major city in the UK and you will see that it is not clean beaches or even smelly cheese that people are objecting to. Nor the EEC, as it was. Successive British governments have failed to control the influx of aliens, when they should have skin in the game, what chance when a federal europe? Maybe we are all bigots as the one-eyed man said, or simply object to the fact that this country has become the cesspit of Europe. Even a one-eyed man could notice that the horde of migrants Merkel imperiously allowed in consisted predominately of able bodied young men, many of whom refused red cross parcels because of the cross on them.

Drive into London, Birmingham, Bradford or any major city in the UK and you will see that it is not clean beaches or even smelly cheese that people are objecting to. Nor the EEC, as it was. Successive British governments have failed to control the influx of aliens, when they should have skin in the game, what chance when a federal europe? Maybe we are all bigots as the one-eyed man said, or simply object to the fact that this country has become the cesspit of Europe. Even a one-eyed man could notice that the horde of migrants Merkel imperiously allowed in consisted predominately of able bodied young men, many of whom refused red cross parcels because of the cross on them.

My word is that what they serve up in prison in Euroland , no wonder they come here .

iturama,

The UK isn't in the Schengen area, so, if you let illegal immigrants in, then it's not an EU problem, and you need to take it up with your local MP to press for tighter border controls.

Similarly, you stated previously on this thread that you didn't object to EU immigration, but you did object to all the other creeds of immigrant from around the rest of the world. That's fair enough, and I don't have an issue with that opinion, but seriously, non-EU immigration has got nothing to do with the EU whatsoever.

VICTIM,

I believe they serve duck gizzard salad in prison. It's one of my favourites. :o)

Is that HP brown sauce on there .

Unfortunately my MP is Theresa May, her of strong and stable government. Agree in the most part, but many of the illegal immigrants are making their way through Europe. Now you will notice that even countries in the Schengen area are talking about border controls. Its ok when the illegals pass through but when they start to linger, even the fine-minded start to get restless.

You get many illegals in Maidenhead, iturama? Presumably they're there for the Henley Regatta?

Heaven forbid.

Being the only Brexiteer on campus , BBC . sad times really .

512 days to go , not that I'm counting.

HP Sauce?

No. Any fool can see it's Balsamic Vinegar.

The drizzler missed the salad here and there, didn't he? Clumsy oaf!

He's from Barcelona.

No sense of humour obviously , Mr Fawlty .