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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

KidA - 15 Nov 2017 09:58 - 8062 of 12628

Adapt or sling your hook.

ExecLine - 15 Nov 2017 11:06 - 8063 of 12628

Here's the latest contribution from my Tory hero, Jacob Rees-Mogg:

We must give NHS £350m a week post-Brexit
Richard Vaughan 20 hours
Tuesday November 14th 2017

Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg demanded the Government deliver on the promise to give £350m a week to the NHS made by the Leave campaign during the EU referendum.

The controversial pledge, which was plastered on the side of the Vote Leave bus during the Brexit debate, was immediately abandoned after the country voted in favour of to leave the bloc last year. But Mr Rees-Mogg, who is one of the leading advocates for Brexit, called on the Treasury to make the money available to the health service once Britain leaves the EU.

A promise was made “Although I did not want the £350m figure to be used [during the referendum] it was used and the electors believed the promise was made,” the MP for North East Somerset said. “Politicians cannot and should not hide behind the small print like some disreputable businesses do, but must recognise the commitment was accepted in broad terms not in petty detail.

“We promised £350m to the NHS, so we must deliver it,” he added.

His comments come just a week after the head of NHS England Simon Stevens made a similar demand from the Government. Mr Stevens took the unusual step to make a direct plea to ministers for additional funding saying the public wanted to see the promise honoured.

The £350m a week figure became one of the most contentious issues during the EU referendum campaign, and even drew criticism from the UK Statistics Authority and Institute for Fiscal Studies for being in accurate. The sum of money was blamed by many Remain supporters for misleading voters.

Mr Rees-Mogg said the extra funds, which would amount to £18.2bn a year, would come from a dividend of around £135bn that would come from leaving the EU.

Free trade approach

Speaking at an Economist for Free Trade event in central London, Mr Rees-Mogg claimed the UK would see a substantial windfall following Brexit as he called for a raft of tax cuts, tearing up of red tape and a wholesale scrapping of trade tariffs.

“This is a free trade approach that focuses on consumers not producers; one that will generate gains to consumers seven times the cost to producers,” he said. “This is a classical view of the world that has economic history and the latest economic modelling on its side. “This is a free trade approach to Government which believes Britain’s greatest days lies before it and not behind it.”

Read more at: https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-must-give-nhs-350m-week-post-brexit/

ExecLine - 15 Nov 2017 11:08 - 8064 of 12628

I do like J R-M's extremely clear communications, both with his voice and what he says in print.

jimmy b - 15 Nov 2017 11:13 - 8065 of 12628

I love the Mogg ,he would make a great PM .

Stan - 15 Nov 2017 11:57 - 8066 of 12628

Hands up.. who has a pin-up of RM on their bedroom wall?

VICTIM - 15 Nov 2017 12:18 - 8067 of 12628

I've got one of him sitting astride a Triumph Bonneville , in leathers .

Haystack - 15 Nov 2017 13:52 - 8068 of 12628

Here is Mogg's motorbike

Fred1new - 15 Nov 2017 14:01 - 8069 of 12628

I hope he rides it to the HP one dark night!

VICTIM - 15 Nov 2017 14:08 - 8070 of 12628

Is that your back yard Hays ?.

Stan - 16 Nov 2017 16:50 - 8071 of 12628

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42014209

Seems reasonable.

hilary - 16 Nov 2017 17:09 - 8072 of 12628

Lloyd Blankfein is an American who lives in New York. Brexit has got fcuk all to do with him!

Stan - 16 Nov 2017 17:11 - 8073 of 12628

Irrelevant.

hilary - 16 Nov 2017 17:13 - 8074 of 12628

Yes. You are.

Stan - 16 Nov 2017 17:18 - 8075 of 12628

Typical abuse.

Fred1new - 16 Nov 2017 18:18 - 8076 of 12628

For the conned little tories.

Their heroin!



Accounts for the delusions.

MaxK - 16 Nov 2017 20:13 - 8077 of 12628

Look to your own side first Fred:

The tories might be in a muddle, but Jeremy's outfit are a shambles by any measure.

btw, that looks like Michael Foot in the cartoon (another exiteer)

Fred1new - 16 Nov 2017 20:45 - 8078 of 12628

Max.

I was taught to look at all sides of a coin before accepting it at face value.

You could try doing the same sometimes.


2517GEORGE - 17 Nov 2017 09:22 - 8079 of 12628

Fred
You need to practice more of what you were taught, atm there is very little evidence of you looking at both sides.

required field - 18 Nov 2017 08:48 - 8080 of 12628

You see : none of this Brexit (if I can call it like that) would have happened if the EU had dealt with illegal immigration and those undesirables crossing the med !.....they just don't get it : WE DON'T WANT THEM.....but no....and here we are....all the politburo moaning about the UK leaving .....illegal immigration was top of the agenda for the undecided voters (myself included)....and that's what made the difference in the end.....the thing is is to make sure that those in power respect the wish of the majority.....but I fear that those in charge just want it to be brexit without the exit.....

hilary - 18 Nov 2017 08:56 - 8081 of 12628

And how exactly is Brexit going to stop illegal immigration???
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