Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Its only Paper they print or numbers in the Cloud - Everyone will have a mansion and it will all be FREE so now worries - nobody will need money in JC`s world or Fred's for that matter. :-)

oh so sad, corbyn and his acolytes get smacked round the face with a piece of cold rotting haddock
clearly the voting public are not as gullible and stupid as corbyn (aka mccluskey) like to imagine

Has Fred taken the day off sick today, as I doubt he will want to paddle the same boat as mate John McDonnell and JC as coxswain -as all they have done much to their despair is splash about hit a few crabs, as they row merrily along at snails pace.

TM might even call an early election to wipe them out.

fred will re-appear superciliously as is his wont, with one of his tiresome cartoons ,...... this will assuredly be off at a tangent, for he will never face up to anything unpalatable


it was interesting that the lib/dem did so well ....... however, the rationale would be that it was an anti brexit/incumbent vote, as is pretty standard at mid-term elections

more importantly, corbyn and his motley red-hued band are not seen as an acceptable alternative

Fred will probably say they didn't know what they were voting for.

they sure knew they weren't voting for corbyn - except the worldly innocent younger bunch who clearly delude themselves that you can have free breakfast, lunch and dinner and much more for no personal contribution let alone pain to themselves

Lib/Dems did well after being tainted by the neo-cons tory party for 10years.

Labour, I will await the effects of the Brexit chaos coming just coming just before the next G/E.

In chess often found the quiet game very effective against blusterers and con artists.

But I do hope they go through the torrid party's finances.

Maybe, they will have to bribe the Muddyrks again.

Well, it's a start......

North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un has released three U.S. citizens detained for years in his horrific prison camps, surrendering to another of President Trump’s demands in advance of a planned historic summit between the two leaders whose countries have long been adversaries.

Donald Trump is scheduled to meet Kim Jong-un during the next two weeks.

I can't wait to see it, personally.

fred - go stick your head in a bucket, preferably full of water, and keep it there

with regard to brexit, it's a shame your Comrade Corbyn lacked the spine to stick his head above the parapet and declare firmly where labour stood in the brexit referendum ...... but then Comrade Corbyn actually wanted out, though his party's wishes were otherwise

Manuel,

Perhaps.

Corbyn believes in party democracy unlike the dictatorship of the neo-con elites or out of work grandees of your neo-con party.

(But even the latter seem to be pointing out the stupidity of the up and at "em" far right tory brigade's policies.)

Also, Corbyn would appear to think before engaging his mouth unlike you, who seem too often utilising your wrong orifice when presenting your thoughtless opinions.

You are certainly not constipated by your own undigested and ill-considered opinions.

I bet every reader here almost creased themselves laughing at Fred`s last post about JC believing in democracy.

"Corbyn believes in party democracy"

Does Putin believe in Justice and Freedom, does China believe in freedom (as long as you keep in line)?

Corbyn believes he should be in power with all his left wing pals that prop up his leadership.

Price Harry believes in Royalty, while he benefits from it along with all the waving masses they have invited to fill the grounds of Windsor Castle but they will not even give them a glass of Fizz or a snack - bring your own if your one of the poor - they are only paying for the 600 odd really rich friends who they can then call on for favours.

The rest are there for the cameras and to make them look good. Everyone of those suckers that have been invited want to unfold a banner, pointing out how mean they really are to commoners, unless of course they fancy one of them.

Come on Fred give us a few cartons of these Royal Clowns.

You can be Right but not Royal.

Could it be....?

Cum on guys one loony one wasted vote what could be fairer than that ?

Still cocked it up

clearly corbyn does not, for else he would have thrown the party's weight behind the Remain campaign instead of just being a limp lettuce

anyway, it seems that the voting public are fast becoming disenchanted with him, as not only the opinion polls show (limited value i agree), but also the ballot box in the council elections

===============

fred - you really are such a prig ....... anyone whose views do not coincide with yours (even stan has deserted you) you immediately label with assorted derogatory and/or insulting epithets

i suppose that is a patented chess move of yours

Manuel,

You are rambling and dribbling on again.

Ask the nurse to take you back to your bed and sedate you again.

today's Guardian is well worth reading
it is consistently decidedly left of centre in its views, so it's both good and interesting to read its balanced analyses of the local elections and the implications and conclusions that might be drawn

again from the guardian ......
Labour peers launched an attack on the party leadership last night, accusing it of “paralysis” and “cowardice” over Brexit policy, as bitter recriminations over disappointing local election results burst into the open


and then from the observer .......
The Observer understands that more than 40 Labour peers are ready to back a cross-party amendment to Brexit legislation that would instruct the government to begin negotiating future UK membership of the European Economic Area (EEA).
...........................
But the peers have reacted furiously after being told that the leadership is instructing peers who take the Labour whip to abstain in the vote on Tuesday, meaning it will not be passed



certainly supports fred assertion that corbyn runs a democratic system and party that fully reflects its members views - NOT!!

fred will now have to determine whether to give a proper answer to the above
no he won't!
it'll just be the usual sidestep and swipe at me or the tory party, or indeed anything to avoid giving a straight answer about why corbyn's tactics are so wonderful and fully reflect the labour party's views

Manuel.

(Briefly.)

You are beginning to remind me more and more of Toad of Toad Hall.

But, with your obvious omniscience, any opinion other than your own will appear invalid to you.

It seems that the number of Labour peers advocating differing opinions to those held by the leadership and thought to be currently held by Corbyn and his supporters regarding what "should be" negotiated is approximately 40 i.e. less than 25% of the total thought to be labour members of the House of Lords.

For me, the basis of democracy of is actions carried out based on the opinions and decisions of the majority of the group considering the “problem”.

That does not preclude the rights of the minorities to advocate other opinions and actions and persuading other to review their “positions”.

Governments come and go. Choices and opinions change and mature and consequently, actions can be modified.

(Maturing.)

Consider the ongoing “ditherings”, which are reported by the media of the confusion in the present inadequate tory cabinet and its party, dominated more and more by neo-cons, over the direction of “Brexit” and what it means, to all and sundry with the possible subsequent economic consequences for the UK. economy.

Then coupled with the inadequate and changing information being published by them it is probably sensible or Corbyn and followers not to come to hasty conclusions and statements of action.

The government formed after the next General Election will have a hell of a mess to clear up.

But as it seems to me that you are a far right neo-conic faithful of a more and more split party and many of which are intolerant of each other. Many think such groupings are unfit to govern.

It seems to me, you are probably unable to admit your own failings of self-aggrandizement, but if you make snide remarks expect to be responded to similarly.

Address the disagreements and you may or may not get a different form of response.

Geez , Corbyn is and always has been a leaver.

If he had come out and backed leave at the referendum and chucked the Labour Party bandwagon behind it too then he'd probably PM by now.

What a dick ! Too late now he missed his chance.

fred - there can be no arguing, except perhaps by you, that the bulk of labour MPs supported Remain ..... it is equally unarguable that Corbyn's support for the Remain campaign was lukewarm at best (he is a Leaver), which demolishes your claim that he runs a democratic party and reflects its views

your usual derogatory nonsense gets the attention it deserves, as it almost verges on the tourettes