Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

are they totally barmy????

Fake news!

In August 2018, Your News Wire, a disreputable web site known for peddling conspiracy theories and junk news as well as distorting and sensationalizing real events, took aim at the new laws in a misleading article bearing the headline “France Passes Law Saying Children Can Consent to Sex with Adults”.

The Your News Wire article accurately presented some elements of the issue but was misleading in other important ways, wrongly suggesting that the legislation had repealed an existing age of consent, stating that “Federal law in France now has no legal age of consent,” and proclaiming “France passes law saying children can consent to sex with adults.”

The law did not say any of that (although it is true that the law did not introduce, for what would have been the first time, a clearly-defined legal minimum age of sexual consent in France). The Your News Wire article also failed to note that the law strengthened and enhanced existing laws against the rape and sexual assault of children, and it contained measures that would give judges more leeway in prosecuting adults who have sex with children.

In France, the thing that everybody is pissed off about right now is the blanket lowering of the national speed limit on single carriageway roads from 90km/h to 80km/h since 1st July. That really is a stupid law!!

It is so the the French cycling teams can catch up with Team Sky Hilary.
"More leeway" usually means going soft on crime. Adults having sex with children- if it is not defined at what age does a child become an adult? Why did the lawmakers feel a change was necessary in the first place? If it is like here, lawmakers are completely out of touch with the views of the people they are supposed to represent. Too much time spent in the bubble and not enough on the streets.

Lord Shrikh maybe offended by BJ`s remarks but it seems he is being allowed to push TM into the condemnation of anyone having an opinion about the personal apperance of any fashion or design that maybe popular with any section of the community.

We should follow other countries lead and ban the burka, making face veils illegal and ensuring full faces can be seen, unless there is some serious medical reason for them not to be.

Let us hope BJ does not back down, and TM`s remarks shows it clearly time for her to GO as she seems to be allowing Muslim sections to dictate and surpress freedom of expresion.

Let's just remind ourselves....

Boris actually said, that in Britain, unlike in some European countries such as France, Germany, Austria, Belgium and now Denmark, Muslim women should not be forbidden from wearing Islamic dress like the niqab or burka.

He considered such garb to be oppressive and ridiculous, likening it to a letter-box or disguising the wearer as for a bank robbery. But this was not a reason to prohibit it, he said.

WTF is Islamophobic about that?

The burka in Europe
France: France was the first European country to put a total public ban on full-face veils in April 2011. The government had banned all “conspicuous” religious symbols, including the Muslim headscarf, from public institutions in 2004. Since then four towns have progressed to banning the burkini.

Belgium: Belgium banned the full-face veil in July 2011. The law bans any clothing that obscures the wearer's identity in public places.

The Netherlands: The Netherlands have a partial ban on the face veil and don't permit it in government buildings, hospitals, schools or public transport. This came into effect in 2015.

Switzerland: The Ticino region implemented a ban on full-face veils and other face-covering headgear in public areas in September 2013.

Spain: Spain has bans on all face-covering headgear in several parts of Catalonia. In 2013 Spain’s Supreme Court overturned the ruling in some regions saying that it “limits religious freedom”. However the ban remains in other parts thanks to the European Court of Human Rights ruling in 2014 that said banning the veil did not breach human rights.

Italy: Italy does not have a national ban but Novara, a region in north-west Italy, imposed fines on wearing clothing that impedes identification in 2010. The government has ruled out national bans on burkas or burkinis, dismissing them as counterproductive.

Now don't let's be sexist. If it's OK for women to wear a burka then it must be OK for a man to wear one too. Yes?

Let's all start wearing them, not for religious reasons but just because it will help stop skin cancer.

Probably some men already do?

I suppose that's the real problem. You can't tell whether the person wearing a burka is either a man or a woman and neither can you recognise who they actually are or what weapons (or shop lifted articles of value) if any, they are hiding under their clothing either.

Maybe Boris and Nigel might along with Mog & others form a new party - " Free British Union Party"

The Pound is weaker again supposedly on worries of a No Deal outcome. I find it strange that the Euro is so strong against the Pound when there is constant media talk (Capital & Conflict for one) that the EU and therefore the Euro may implode due to Italy's debt mountain, or the Germans having had enough of funding the likes of Italy and Greece with no prospect of it being paid back decide to stop.

It should come back then, eh?

Not necessarily according to C&C if/when Italy renege on their debt many currencies will suffer including the £.

the burka, its use is is not english , also have a wrong effect on others p sycic.
do not underestimate, the burka & its power.

2517,

My guesses are, the foreseen problems are :

(Approximates)

UK has 13% of EU Population

UK's GDP 7.4% of "Total" EU GDP

GDP growth is low compared to EU as a whole.

UK is 1 country within 27/28.

Movement of goods is likely to be impeded. (They are already geographically to some extent but the problem is not likely to be diminished, by borders.)

The currency "exchange" has "hidden" costs.

I would think the outlook and the sterling currency pushes it down the security table.

Which serves to emphasise the importance of the UK as a buyer from, as opposed to a seller, to the EU

There are 27 countries within the EU who are going to have a big problem unless the unelected bureauprats soften their stance.

Dilute the individual country's imports by 27 compared with UK's exports.

Rough and ready comparison of relative problems.

I think Ruth Davidson is way off the mark in comparing the Burka to the wearing of a Christian crucifix

When May comes back with an offer of "The Jersey Deal" she will be the one getting her P45 from the Party and the Public.

I assume you all know what "The Jersey Deal" is?

A good looking bunch.

The revival of the tory party!