Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Boris frequently conducts himself in ways where it is hard for one to continue making allowances for his quirks and thereby continue giving him the respect a leader should naturally deserve.

For his lack of discipline alone, he would not make a good leader, let alone a great one.

Speaking personally, I don't want a leader who looks and seems to behave like a fat oaf and can't even seem to manage his own hair or clothing.

Having said that, I think his oratory is terrific and his use of the written word is quite inspiring and charismatic.

To me, he just seems to lack that extra bit of personal discipline and being the bit that just makes all the difference.

Exec,

What does he inspire with his written word?

To me, he is the English version of Trump and a self-serving hedonistic chancer.

Unfortunately, at the moment too many of to-days serving MPs are more interested in their own "career" prospects than feasible future policies for the benefit of the UK and its population as a whole.

(That applies to all major parties.)

Anyone else on here notice, how in Episode 1 The Bodyguard changed his shirt over from a white one to a blue one and then back again?

And in Episode 4, last night, how the plaster on his forehead seemed to move from one side to the other? I would have to go back and re-check this episode to see if the side of his temple where he attempted to shoot himself (but with the bullet changed from a real one to a blank) also changed from his left side to right side. This could have been a shot of him looking at himself in the mirror.

Pity too, to lose Keeley Hawes so soon and have her killed off.



Or has she just gone into hiding to recover from the explosion....... Hmmm?

Fred

Well for one thing, he hopes to inspire the PM to bin the Chequer's deal but she probably won't and I think this will be the undoing of her.

In the running to replace her are

Boris Johnson (favourite): 5.9/1
Sajid Javid (with a good British name): 7.2/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg (from the back benches which is unprecedented and my favourite): 10/1
Michael Gove: 10.5/1
Jeremy Hunt: 11.5/1

Tom Tugendhat would be an interesting option

Exec,

A very attractive bunch.

Add Dil's and Manuel's names and it would be the perfect list!

8-)

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Exec , I too suspect that Keely Hawes is in hiding.

Thanks, Dil. That's what my £5 is on.

Meanwhile, out there in the rest of the world....

Asian stocks fell as investors assessed the outlook for global growth with no end in sight for trade tensions.

US stocks rose as a rise in energy stocks and Apple helped overcome another flare-up in trade tensions.

UK stocks edged down on Tuesday amid rising tensions between Washington and Beijing, while Ashtead rose on results.

Headlines
The substantial impact of the financial crisis has left people's wages 3% below what they were a decade ago, new research reveals. The analysis done for the BBC by the Institute for Fiscal Studies shows that on average people's real annual wages are £800 lower. And that people who are aged between 30 and 39 now are earning £2,100 a year less than people of the same age group in 2008.

More than 250 free-to-use cash machines are disappearing a month as operators shut unprofitable ones, the network co-ordinator Link has said. There are 53,000 free machines in the UK - but the number is shrinking at a record rate as people use less cash. Now the Payment Services Regulator is cracking down on the closures and asking for more network protection.

Boris Johnson is spot on: 'Chequers' is far worse than staying in EU

May says £39bn bill (payment?) is linked to Brexit deal. Hmmm? That's not how most of us see it.

May is a disaster, she has to go and the UK Tories discuss it. However, Jacob Rees-Mogg denies his Brexiteer group is plotting against Theresa May

Imagine having the full support of Reasy-Mogg.

if JRM, BJ and others of similar hue bring down the gov't, for whom would they then vote in a forced GE?

would they and their followers abstain, thus allowing in Corbyn and the far-left by default?
but hang on a minute ...... Corbyn is about to be forced to support remaining within EU by the unions

fred of course would be delighted and not care even if his pension fund was seized, for he knows he has not long to live



and what about all you rabids on this site?
it'll do no good beating your breasts in anguish, wailing and gnashing your teeth that your taxes have ballooned in addition to remaining within EU AND under a far left-wing gov't

No matter what the state of May, there won't be a GE. We have a fixed term parliament. The DUP will always vote with the government on a vote of confidence. The Conservatives will survive as the government for a few years yet. The boundary changes will make it virtually impossible for Labour to win a GE under Corbyn.

Well, I say you should let the Adulterer and the Undertaker try to bring down Maggie Dismay! If nothing else, it could make a good plot for a new Batman movie.

:o)

Manuel,

The stupidity of Brexit seems to be coming home to you.

But I believed you thought that Osborne and Cameron were geniuses when they proposed it.

I have sent Jeremy and Mcdonnell your home address in order that they can examine your books to arrange for you to pay a little extra taxes to help others out.

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But, if you look back through this thread you will see early on, that I said the final "solution" may be that the "llttle uk" will be outside the EU and still attempting to trade with it, but having accept EU "rules and regulations", but unable to modify, alter or take part in ongoing review of them.

Also, accepting the reduction of London as the long-term centre of the financial services. Probably relying more and more on its survival as a cheap tourist resort.

Taxation will, of course, will have to be raised to pay for its failing economy.

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PS.

The worst effect of the so-called Brexit is that we will be seen to have excluded "ourselves" from the EU on grounds of self-interest and superiority and the Europeans will politely say to "hell with the UK" and prefer to deal with their "uncomplicated" neighbours who belong to the same "club".

Whatever is said by some, the UK is a little country and it's economic "world significance" is gradually diminishing.

Also, its appeal to postgraduates for "university" research etc. due to more confusing proposals on "immigration etc." is lessening, they are going elsewhere where they are accepted more readily by some.

The days of the Raj are over.

Theresa May's Chequers plan dealt a blow after DUP MPs back rival Northern Ireland proposal from Jacob Rees-Mogg




By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent and
Gordon Rayner, Political Editor
12 September 2018 • 7:08pm


Theresa May’s Brexit plans have been dealt a blow after the Democratic Unionist Party backed a rival plan drawn up by Tory rebels to allow the UK to leave the EU's single market and customs union without a hard border in Ireland.

The European Research Group published a paper calling for equivalence of UK and EU regulations and conformity assessment for all agricultural goods on the island of Ireland.

The plan - which is at odds with the Mrs May's Brexit proposal which was agreed by her Cabinet out at her Chequers country home - was immediately backed by the DUP, whose 10 MPs are keeping the Mrs May’s Government in power.



More is you sign up: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/12/theresa-mays-chequers-plan-dealt-blow-dup-backs-rival-erg-proposal/

Poland have been under investigation since 2017 for constantly breaking EU rules.

Hungary are now also under EU investigation for constantly breaking EU rules.

Ultimate penalty for each country is suspension from the EU if all other member states besides the one in question agree.

Hungary has told Poland not to worry as it will back them and Poland are expected now to do the same for Hungary.

The EU now consider this a much bigger threat to its future than Brexit.

This is the type of democracy that Fred would have us remain in.

It's a no from me Fred.

What about the EU breaking it's own rules to promote monster Martin Selmayr, guess that's ok then.

i do not believe exiting EU is stupid at all
how one reaches that goal was always going to be very difficult and convoluted