Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Interesting stuff.

With respect, little woman, I think collection of VAT by EU27 member states would be totally enforcable if it weren't part of a trade deal.

If they know who you are, they'll just apply for an arrest warrant and your extradition to face trial. Look at the case 10 or 15 years ago of the British gambling plc who didn't realise they had US clients on their books residing in states where gambling was forbidden. Their MD went off on holiday to the US, got arrested at the airport, and didn't come home.

The only difference as I see it would be that each EU27 member state would apply their own distance selling VAT threshold, which could either mean that you'd have to pay no VAT whatsoever if you didn't hit any of the thresholds, or you'd have to pay VAT to multiple member states which could be an absolute nightmare.

Notwithstanding, I don't think it will come to that. Both the EU and UK have got too much to lose (I think HMRC hand over about 3bn € each year to the EU in VAT receipts, and obviously get paid some back themselves). Why wouldn't they want to include MOSS within a trade deal?

Selected sayings from down the ages

1950: "How much for parned nowets"
1960: "A rolling stone gathers no moss"
2017: "A rolling stone gathers no VAT Moss"

Hilary, I really do hope you are wrong.

Personally I am now working towards my Retirement Exit strategy (when did we have to do this? ) so hopefully what ever happens, I will no longer have to work evenings and weekends just to make sure the VAT MOSS gets done correctly and on time.

Well i'll stick my neck out and say that was pretty good from Hammond , thought he was a bit of a sad case before but came across well . He seems to have grasped we are actually leaving , let's hope May doesn't cave in to the EU bully brigade .

hilly, little w.

This might interest you re €uroballs:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/geoblocking-prevalent-eus-online-shoppers

Thanks, Max - that's very interesting. It plays into the hands of eurosceptics everywhere, and I totally get why little woman is hacked off with it all. The EU are just so out of touch when it comes to understanding how business works.

I guess the way around it when it comes to physical goods would be to charge excessive shipping so as to act as a deterrent.

However, when it comes to digital sales, my personal opinion is that it's best to use an eCommerce gateway who take care of everything.

Britain must accept more immigrants if it wants a free trade deal, Indian diplomat warns



Prime Minister Narendra Modi with British Prime Minister Theresa May



By James Rothwell, Brexit Correspondent
23 November 2017 • 4:30pm


Britain must accept higher levels of immigration from India if it hopes to sign a free trade agreement after Brexit, a senior Indian diplomat has warned, as he predicted it could take up to a decade to secure the deal.

YK Sinha, India’s High Commissioner to the UK, said "freer movement of people and professionals" had to form part of any future deal to ensure it was “mutually beneficial.”

Speaking to Indian business leaders in London, Mr Sinha said he was “very confident” that a “winning partnership” between the two countries would emerge after Britain's departure from the EU.

However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/23/britain-must-accept-immigrants-wants-free-trade-deal-warns-senior/

The complications of adolescence increase.

No Fred, just the increase in people who cant say NO!

Well maybe that £ 550 million we give then every year could be stopped and used for the benefit of the British people .

I thought all you Brexiters were looking forward to driving around in your multi-coloured tuk tuks once you'd signed a trade deal with India. :o)

Not even sure what we buy from India hils , maybe tea ?

They can stick their call centres where the sun don't shine too , fed up of pigeon English 'George' ringing me up trying to flog me things :-)

I can remember having an Indian Summer a few years ago but to be honest it was something I could take or leave so not bothered if they won't give us another one.

And if they really want to play hard ball I'd put a punitive tax on Indian takeaways.

They can tuk tuk off , why is every Nation obsessed by immigration , i thought we had an education system over here , you know to educate the skills we require .

I've no problem with Indians, it's the racist Europeans beloved of the Remainers/Eurinators.

Poppadoms .

I've noticed, that there are some Indian call centre operatives who do take a great pride in their job and also their use of the English language.

Indeed, most of the Indian ones I've had have been excellent.

Yes but there are over a billion of them , at what point do you say that's enough , they should only come if they are required and educated .

And we are one of the most densely populated country in Europe apparently , and this should be told .