Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

hilly, little w.

This might interest you re €uroballs:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/geoblocking-prevalent-eus-online-shoppers

Thanks, Max - that's very interesting. It plays into the hands of eurosceptics everywhere, and I totally get why little woman is hacked off with it all. The EU are just so out of touch when it comes to understanding how business works.

I guess the way around it when it comes to physical goods would be to charge excessive shipping so as to act as a deterrent.

However, when it comes to digital sales, my personal opinion is that it's best to use an eCommerce gateway who take care of everything.

Britain must accept more immigrants if it wants a free trade deal, Indian diplomat warns



Prime Minister Narendra Modi with British Prime Minister Theresa May



By James Rothwell, Brexit Correspondent
23 November 2017 • 4:30pm


Britain must accept higher levels of immigration from India if it hopes to sign a free trade agreement after Brexit, a senior Indian diplomat has warned, as he predicted it could take up to a decade to secure the deal.

YK Sinha, India’s High Commissioner to the UK, said "freer movement of people and professionals" had to form part of any future deal to ensure it was “mutually beneficial.”

Speaking to Indian business leaders in London, Mr Sinha said he was “very confident” that a “winning partnership” between the two countries would emerge after Britain's departure from the EU.

However, he also warned that signing a free trade agreement was “obviously not going to be easy” and suggested that the deal may not be complete until 2030.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/23/britain-must-accept-immigrants-wants-free-trade-deal-warns-senior/

The complications of adolescence increase.

No Fred, just the increase in people who cant say NO!

Well maybe that £ 550 million we give then every year could be stopped and used for the benefit of the British people .

I thought all you Brexiters were looking forward to driving around in your multi-coloured tuk tuks once you'd signed a trade deal with India. :o)

Not even sure what we buy from India hils , maybe tea ?

They can stick their call centres where the sun don't shine too , fed up of pigeon English 'George' ringing me up trying to flog me things :-)

I can remember having an Indian Summer a few years ago but to be honest it was something I could take or leave so not bothered if they won't give us another one.

And if they really want to play hard ball I'd put a punitive tax on Indian takeaways.

They can tuk tuk off , why is every Nation obsessed by immigration , i thought we had an education system over here , you know to educate the skills we require .

I've no problem with Indians, it's the racist Europeans beloved of the Remainers/Eurinators.

Poppadoms .

I've noticed, that there are some Indian call centre operatives who do take a great pride in their job and also their use of the English language.

Indeed, most of the Indian ones I've had have been excellent.

Yes but there are over a billion of them , at what point do you say that's enough , they should only come if they are required and educated .

And we are one of the most densely populated country in Europe apparently , and this should be told .

How do you think things would improve under Labour, Fred?

If there is another General election in the next 12months, it would depend on what is revealed as the probable consequences of Brexit during that period and the various manifestoes of the parties.

Hopefully, the manifestos and debate would reveal the consequences and results of "freedom" from being ruled by the EU and replaced by rule from London tory HQ.

Personally, I would like to see a coalition government for a fixed period with "free" vote on any severance of relationships with the EU and elected MPs to have the courage of their convictions rather than voting out of consideration of what is or they think is advantageous to their personal and possible political advantage.

Unlikely, but anything would smell cleaner than the present governing cabal.

And if a free vote goes against the negotiated deal the alternative is no deal.

Instead of sniping from the sides , Labour who according to their manifesto support Brexit should try putting forward some sensible suggestions of their own and I don't mean 500 odd amendments some of which are plain stupid.

A cross party committee should be working on Brexit.

It is the details of what is meant by Brexit is the real question.

For the majority of the UK public the benefits of "changes" could have been achieved while still sitting at the table, rather the tipping what is on the table into the rubbish bin and then scavenging for the same.