Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Is Mother Teressa planning for a repetition of her EU divorce with an American one?

The EU divorce isn't hers dear Freda it's come through a DEMOCRATIC VOTE , don't you know .

Freda - Day after day alone on a hill..... :0)

Poor old Fred ,what's he on about now ?

Think he's changed sides and is now supporting Trump and the far right crap he tweeted.

No pleasing Fred these days , if she had said nothing then that would have been wrong too.

484 days to go.

Dil.

I was being facetious.

But I think it is a little amusing to see the tory elite and brexiters going around on their knees to different countries begging for handouts and promising future

bribes.

But as you say it is a democracy and you voted for your own demise.

I hope you like bananas.

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Also, I always wondered if Dumbo and Vicky were pseudonyms for Donald and Melania.

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What's it like in that Ivory tower , got central heating i hope . " I wondered lonely as a cloud " comes to mind Freda .

Here's another ditty reminds me of you Freda, the classic from Wizard Of Oz. "If you only had a brain" :0)

''Let's all look on the bright side of life''

V - please don't show your ignorance in literature and/or spelling ...... wAndering!
:-)

Poetic licence ?.

Mr Wordsworth tells me he is underwhelmed by your attempted prowess :-)

UK November manufacturing PMI 58.2 a four year high , IHS Markit . shall we all cheer .BFN at 9.48 am .

Not a fan of bananas Fred since I was over fed on them as a youth when my father worked for Geest , biggest importers of bananas in the UK at the time and they all came through the dock in Barry.

We have no need to beg anyone for a deal Fred , including the EU , but deals obviously have to be advantageous to both sides to be worth doing so if some don't want a deal then so be it.

481 days to go Fred and still no sign of the end of the world.

Tories at war over European judges amid claims UK heading for version of Brexit 'that effectively fails to leave EU'



By Edward Malnick, Whitehall Editor
3 December 2017 • 8:57am




Theresa May is heading towards a version of Brexit that effectively fails to withdraw Britain from the European Union, a former senior judge and an 
ex-leader of the Tories have warned.

Sir Richard Aikens, a Court of Appeal judge until 2015, told the Prime Minister that a proposed “compromise” on oversight by the European Court of Justice was “dangerous” and would be “tantamount to reversing the result of the 2016 referendum”.

His warning comes amid a growing Cabinet row over the plans.

In an article for the Telegraph, Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader and one of the party’s most influential Eurosceptics, agrees with Sir Richard and warns that the move could lead to European judges overseeing trade disputes.

Mrs May is facing mounting protests over the plans from within her Government, with Michael Gove and Boris Johnson understood to be among at least four senior ministers...



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