Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

My political hero, Jacob Rees-Mogg, talks assertively and calmly to Andrew Marr on Brexit (3 Dec 2017) about "not paying a large sum of money to the EU without actually getting agreement before we actually leave the EU on 29 March 2019 so as not to reduce our negotiating clout", the Irish border question (ie. there's no need to have one and it is merely a matter of political choice) and more. He also reminds us, that "having a transition period would mean, that we would not have actually left" and that NI is "as much British as Somerset":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib9N6kIdFA0

He is also 'in favour' of a Trump visit in that it should happen out of a sense of duty from our country to its people towards assisting its security by the maintenance of a strong American friendship.

Personally speaking, I cannot wait for Jacob Rees-Mogg to become our Prime Minister.

Judy heard Somerset and Cornwall are considering a referendum on leaving Little England.

Day after day
Alone on a hill
The man with the foolish grin
Is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
And he never gives an answer

But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round

Well on the way
Head in a cloud
The man of a thousand voices
Talking perfectly loud

But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make
And he never seems to notice

But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round

And nobody seems to like him
They can tell what he wants to do
And he never shows his feelings

But the fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round, oh oh oh, round round round round

He never listens to them
He knows that they're the fools
They don't like him

The fool on the hill
Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head
See the world spinning round

Oh, round round round round, oh

Does anyone actually take Fred 's posts seriously any more ?

i rarely read any of anyone's here any more

RIP

Sadly missed.

:-)

Is this one of your rare occasions ?

Typical tory, Brexiters and far righters!

Day after day.......

The old chap has a very thick skin .

EM's tweet contribution:

Ed Miliband

@Ed_Miliband
What an absolutely ludicrous, incompetent, absurd, make it up as you go along, couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery bunch of jokers there are running the government at the most critical time in a generation for the country.
8:23 AM - Dec 5, 2017

He must be commenting from experience , i would think really , just look at Labour now .

Twitter is an opinion sewer. Why give it time, let the morons play.

Or maybe you just don't like to admit that Red Ed has a point?

hilary,

If the post is to me, it is my view no matter who tweets.

Cheers,
KidA

In case you didn't notice, KidA, it was Maggie Dismay's inability to engage with the public, coupled with Labour's skillful use of social media, that captured the youth vote and lost the Tories their overall majority earlier this year.

So, whatever you might think of Twitter personally, the fact is that Ed Miliband has 3/4 million Twitter followers, Jeremy Corbyn has 1.6m followers, and, for the Labour party, it's a powerful medium for getting their message across. Gary Neville retweeted Miliband's tweet with a favourable comment, and he has nearly 4m followers, so it's only a fool who discounts the reach of social media.

Meanwhile, back in the Bat Cave, Maggie Dismay doesn't even have 0.5m Twits who follow her.

Only to be found they conned people with lies and where totally unaware of costs for their pipe dreams , and still don't know now . Is that what you want .

But there are no problems with the goalpost negotiations or skills with which Theresa and cronies are trying to achieve.

I think they should find a dark room and lie down for a while and consider their positions.

This government is not fit to govern.

Freda , dark room , and lie down , seems good advice to me .