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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2017 10:09 - 8223 of 12628

Dil.

A similar expression would be applicable to the present government's Brexit negotiation team and yourself.

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2017 10:48 - 8224 of 12628

Not very nice Fred , typical lefty nastiness .

KidA - 06 Dec 2017 11:02 - 8225 of 12628


hilary [Go to hilary's website] [View hilary's profile] - 05 Dec 2017 15:55 - 8213 of 8223
In case you didn't notice, KidA, it was Maggie Dismay's inability to engage with the public, coupled with Labour's skillful use of social media, that captured the youth vote and lost the Tories their overall majority earlier this year.

So, whatever you might think of Twitter personally, the fact is that Ed Miliband has 3/4 million Twitter followers, Jeremy Corbyn has 1.6m followers, and, for the Labour party, it's a powerful medium for getting their message across. Gary Neville retweeted Miliband's tweet with a favourable comment, and he has nearly 4m followers, so it's only a fool who discounts the reach of social media.

Meanwhile, back in the Bat Cave, Maggie Dismay doesn't even have 0.5m Twits who follow her.

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Who is discounting its reach? Look at the crack that is mobile phones/texting, X Factor/Celebrity I'm Doing Something Or Other. Humans are daft and malleable creatures.

Is silly sixth form name tagging - Nasal Numpty, Stinking Labia Party... - the order of the day?

For my part, like you I'm idiot enough to post here.

Cheers,
KidA

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2017 11:05 - 8226 of 12628

I think we're too late to save him jimmy , he's in a deep OCD state , brought on by paranoia and the fear of common sense . Besides it's the only sport he likes .

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2017 11:36 - 8227 of 12628

He could win the miserable Olympic gold VIC .

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2017 12:33 - 8228 of 12628

Kida,

You seem to have proved your own case.

KidA - 06 Dec 2017 12:48 - 8229 of 12628

Please expand.

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2017 13:01 - 8230 of 12628

Please think!

hilary - 06 Dec 2017 13:12 - 8231 of 12628

KidA,

Those daft malleable creatures you refer to also have a vote. So, at the moment, I'd say the person discounting the reach of social media is Maggie Dismay.

Call Me Dave sussed social media out a long time ago. He may have been slippery, but he made a big effort to engage. Maggie should try taking a leaf out of his book imo.

I wonder how many twits follow Jacob Rees Mogg?

Haystack - 06 Dec 2017 13:17 - 8232 of 12628

It wasn't social media that was May's problem. It was a bad campaign, poor manifesto and a PM that doesn't do public engagement. Social media is an echo chamber with little sign that it changes views.

KidA - 06 Dec 2017 13:19 - 8233 of 12628

Fred1new,

I'd like clarification of your post - 8228, thanks. Oh, and good to see you are a member of the club.

hilary - 06 Dec 2017 13:24 - 8234 of 12628

Donald Trump might beg to differ, Haystack. :o)

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2017 13:24 - 8235 of 12628

Well said Hays , I live in a location that had a Labour majority of 93 ish but due to excessive postal begging/warning letters , Corbyn was a threat to EU leaving etc . Labour increased their majority to 9,500 ish it was a poor campaign .

hilary - 06 Dec 2017 13:28 - 8236 of 12628

Labour’s slick online campaign outguns Tory press

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2017 13:35 - 8237 of 12628

Maybe settle for a bit of both , but Labour didn't win .

hilary - 06 Dec 2017 13:37 - 8238 of 12628

Maybe not. But the Conservatives certainly lost!

KidA - 06 Dec 2017 13:40 - 8239 of 12628

hilary,

Agreed, Corbyn is better at manipulating young people. On who, I was referring to this thread, sorry it wasn't clear.

Are we still doing the Cuntbyn, Child Catcher, name calling shtick?

Cheers,
KidA

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2017 13:41 - 8240 of 12628

I know , because of a poor campaign .

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2017 16:42 - 8241 of 12628

Perhaps, Corbyn comes over as honest, which for many is not how they see the majority of the con party's governing elite.

2517GEORGE - 06 Dec 2017 16:48 - 8242 of 12628

Ha! Ha! Ask the uni stu's. Of course he comes over as honest, that's why they voted for him and then when reality kicked in they realised he had blatantly lied to them.
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