Crocodile
- 16 Dec 2002 03:59
Kayak
- 13 Jul 2009 16:54
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ok now I'm confused again. Are you saying that BT have made a socket that is not an NTE-5 the master socket, and that the NTE-5 socket is now an extension? They should not have done that.
Clubman3509
- 13 Jul 2009 17:35
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Thank's Optimist I think you are right I have many applications open during the day.
Moneyam, Bloomberg Radio, share dealing platform, Spreadbetting trading platform.
The Other Kevin
- 13 Jul 2009 17:40
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Kayak - Not as such. Local telephone engineer did the change a couple of years ago. His bill for 45 says: "Fault and re-route existing wiring. Socket in office established as main socket for b/b. LJLL installed in main bedroom"
Kayak
- 13 Jul 2009 21:26
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Still confused TOK...
LJLL is probably LJU but which socket do you have in which room?
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/btsockets.htm
The Other Kevin
- 13 Jul 2009 22:47
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Kayak - Before we bought the property some three years ago there were two landlines. When we arrived one had been discontinued. I think at that stage there were two master sockets, one inside the house, in the lounge,
and an exterior one in a box where the line surfaces from underground.
I remember having to have a telephone engineer in to sort out the wiring. I think it was because one extension upstairs was not working as it had been fed from the outside socket which had been disconnected (with me so far?)
Anyway, we were left with a master socket in the lounge and two extensions upstairs, one of which did not have an ADSL filter as the outlet was buiried behind built-in furniture.
After some months it became apparent in conversations with the cognoscenti in Calcutte that the Gold Standard was to have broadband connected to a master socket. So another engineer was commissioned to move the master socket from the lounge to the office and while he was here I had him put a socket on the wire/telephone in the bedroom so that the line could be filtered.
So we now have a former master socket in the lounge, a socket in the bedroom and a master socket (not NTE 5) in the office.
Life may not be simple but it is beautiful!
Kayak
- 13 Jul 2009 23:09
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Well unfortunately the ADSL faceplate and iplate both need an NTE-5 to work. You can of course get BT to install one but they would charge a lot, or you could buy an NTE-5 on ebay and fit it yourself. It is not difficult, but never tell BT what you did :-)
It does sound like your speed could improve drastically by installing the faceplate and iplate. Bad internal wiring is the main reason for poor speeds.
The Other Kevin
- 13 Jul 2009 23:29
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I'll sleep on it. Many thanks again for all your help (not forgetting Opti) Goodnight.
Seymour Clearly
- 14 Jul 2009 10:13
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Just as a matter of interest, my home line rental and broadband is now completely with TalkTalk as my exchange has been unbundled. If I were to move my master socket, who do I have to feel irresponsible to? :-)
jeffmack
- 14 Jul 2009 12:23
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PC World taking pre orders for Windows 7, home version 50, prof 100. States its a 50% reduction on RRP
The Other Kevin
- 15 Jul 2009 17:48
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Mrs Calcutta telephoned to see if I'm happy after the BT engineer's visit. I told her I was now getting 1.2 down and she said the line had been set at 1.7 However, she said she would set my "rastro" (couldn't quite make that out) profile at 2.5 so that I could get over 2meg. What's she talking about, please Kayak? I promised her a big hug if it worked but she didn't seem impressed'
Jeff - Amazon have cheaper time-limited offer.
Kayak
- 15 Jul 2009 22:07
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I don't think they do hugs in Calcutta...
There is always confusion about three different numbers. The physical line speed is the one at which your router is physically connecting to the exchange. You can get this from the router statistics pages. It is a number you should know and you really can't make sense of Mrs Calcutta unless you do. That together with the "attenuation" and "noise margin" show how welll your line is performing.
The second number is the data throughput. This can never be higher than the line speed, for obvious reasons. That is what you are measuring with speed tests and it is dependent not only on the physical line speed but on the performance of the ISP's network.
However, because of the way the IP (Internet Protocol) works, the ISP network needs to know how fast your line is physically. Otherwise, it will pump a lot of data through its network which will be thrown away at your end because it can't get down your slow line and it will have to be retransmitted from the other end causing a lot of additional load on the network. Unfortunately the physical line speed is not easily available at the IP level and so the third number, an 'IP profile' is used which is lower than the line speed you normally connect at and gives the ISP an indication of how much data it can pump down the line.
So translating, I think your conversation boiled down to you telling her that you were getting 1.2 (throughput) in a speed test, whereupon she said that the IP profile (maximum throughput) had been set to 1.7. She would set your IP profile to 2.5 so that you might see over 2 in a speed test. One can't really check whether all this makes sense without knowing your physical connection speed and attenuation/noise margin.
Rastro could have been RADSL (rate adaptive DSL). Are you on a 2 meg max service?
The Other Kevin
- 16 Jul 2009 11:10
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Looks like I'll have to hop on a plane and give Mrs C her hug. She did as promised: 2meg plus this morning.
Figures from the huib show (down/up)Noise margin 9.6dB/18.0dB
Line attenuation 59dB/31.5
Output power 18.6dBm/12.1
ADSL line status connection information: Down 2656 kbps/Up448
Service is "up to 8meg" LOL
On reflection, Mrs C will have to wait. Off on hols tomorrow.
Kayak
- 16 Jul 2009 13:13
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Looks like a good result. At 59db your line to the exchange is either very long or of bad quality. You're pretty lucky to get 2656kbps. A better quality filter might help (e.g. the ADSLnation one, either the XF-1e or the faceplate previously discussed). ADSL2 might give you a bit more speed.
The Other Kevin
- 16 Jul 2009 13:30
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Kayak - 2300m from the exchange. I'm happy with what's being delivered if it's maintained. So I'll leave well alone for now. Many thanks again for your interest, guidance and general help.
scussy
- 16 Jul 2009 14:13
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had an upgrade,
and the result is WOW
7/16/2009 1:08 PM GMT 47.57 Mb/s 1.65 Mb/s 28 ms London
zzaxx99
- 17 Jul 2009 17:56
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FWIW, Virgin cutting their 50MB service to 28/month from September (+11 for phone line)