Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

United States of Germany i think they mean .

See what can happen when these fanatical types get in , changes just like that .

Other countries will reach critical mass.

Mark,

I think Schulz is talking sense.

Good to see harmonious relationships in a family or business.

Easier to prosper and stop bickering.

Getting on with my neighbours makes it easier for me to sleep at night.


But what do we have to live with after all the blustering?

Add to that ill-feelings to-wards the UK.

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"Draft guidelines showed the transition period would last around two years. During that time, Britain will remain part of the customs union and single market but will no longer take part in EU institutions or have a vote. It will still be subject to EU law."

Now there's a word made for you Freda " Blustering " suits you sir , you and your sort must be the answer to these peoples prayers , just lay down and let them walk all over you , then it's too late . Harmonious relationship my arse it's come with us or else , you dimwit .

Just to cheer up Manuel and Max.

Manuel.

Something for you to get your false teeth into.

As corporate goliaths grow ever larger, Britain looks increasingly exposed
Will Hutton

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/10/corporate-goliaths-grow-ever-larger-britain-increasingly-exposed

Here is another interesting commentary on the Brexit debacle.


The more they say they are all happy the more sceptical you should be
Andrew Rawnsley


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree


Half the cabinet should be lynched!


There's moderation for you.

Peter Bone was talking to Nigel today on the wireless, and he thinks the whole shebang (including May) will go tits up shortly. The story is so full holes, it simply cant stand.

this article suggests the same.


By suggesting there is agreement where I am not sure any such thing exists May’s deal may be very dangerous indeed

Posted on December 10 2017



http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/12/10/by-suggesting-there-is-agreement-where-i-am-not-sure-any-such-thing-exists-mays-deal-may-be-very-dangerous-indeed/

Just seen quick headline , forget Brexit the EU's big threat is POLAND .

It's from Bloomberg , trouble ahead maybe .

Poland habitually stick 2 fingers up at the EU, but the EU's hand is tied in terms of how they can legitimately punish them. Poland and all of the other eastern European countries with next to zero GDP should never have been allowed to join the EU imho.

It would be nice, however, if the EU were to punish Poland, and Polexit led to a total breakup of the bloc. A reformed trading union consisting of just the most powerful 8 or 10 producers (including the UK) would be much more preferable to the current EU27/28 imo.

Cant find it V, can you post a link?

It's something that's been reported for about 6 months or more now, Max. Poland take the financial aid but not the muslim refugees.

I'm all over the place MaxK , I did a restore and they put me back on Edge and it's on their news site , trying to get Chrome back sorry .

Is it MSN , says it's Bloomberg Money .

Wow thank heavens for that back on Chrome , if you move browser all your sights don't know you .