Thank you Exec & Optimist.

I've downloaded the utility and will have a go tomorrow

Deleted as fault appears to have sorted itself out. Sorry if anyone had started to waste time on my original post.

Exec & Optimist.

The utility you suggested has worked a treat. It took me a little while to get my head round it and summon up the bottle to have a go. When I did I was pretty simple & straightforward and worked a treat.

Thanks very much for your help, it's saved me the hassle of having to re-install and reload everything. Much appreciated.

CCC

Lol MM :-)

MM

:-)

It's not until you do your internet banking to transfer some funds to someone for an internet purchase and your wife, who is sat at the side of you takes the PIN call from the bank and deals with it, that you later begin to realise about the kind of world in which we are living in.

Can anyone spot anything wrong with a situation such as this?

Of course. You shouldn't have given your wife access to your money.

Close.

Even though the bank are using a robotic caller/answering facility for a 'transfers and payments' call, they are obviously using some other sort of tool or facility which can tell that another person, other than the caller, is in close proximity to the caller. Perhaps it cuts in and acts if it hears another voice, a voice other than the caller's, on the line.

It's no good the gentleman of the house being online doing some online banking, such as a trasfer and payment, particularly to 'another person' and his wife taking and dealing with the bank's security telephone call to acknowledge receipt of the online received PIN.

What can happen?

Well, in our case, we got a block put on our online transfers to 'another person'.

We can pay the gas bill or similar but 'Forget it Kayak!' You will just have to put up with telephone banking if you want me to send you any monies. :-(

Not that telephone banking is worse. In fact, it is better. You cannot yet do 'Faster Payments' with online banking. Phone banking is also 24/7 and you can do it outside banking hours and also to a great extent. Payments generally take 2 hrs or less to reach the recipient. But do make sure no other voices can be heard by the bank's robotic facilities or call tools. It compromises security and, without telling you why, what or when, the transaction might not go ahead - even though you think it has gone ahead OK!!!! - and the bank might not tell you about the block they've put on your account.

Note that Online banking transfers and payments, even from one branch of a bank to another of the same bank, can often take all of three to four days.

Excel - I use First Direct and pay my bills through the fast pay service online.

In fact the most dramatic example, was when I received my PIN generator from Tescos having opened a deposit account up, and I tested it by sending 1 back to my FD account.

As soon as I sent it, I coincidentally logged onto my FD site to check my current account and pay my bills etc and was astonished to see the 1 was there - within 60 seconds !

The thing about the additional voices on the line being detected does sound more than a little unlikely. I suspect that there is a simpler explanation like a noisy line or difficulty with your wife's accent perhaps?

Maybe nobody has had this problem - but I'll mention it anyway.

I am using Vista and I noticed this morning that it had failed to install System Pack 2. I also noticed the pack was dated some time in June so it might have been failing regularly since then.

A bit of rooting around produced this download.

I used it and Service Pack 2 installed without a problem. The whole exercise of installing the cure and then the Service Pack takes quite a time (maybe 2 hours in total for me) so it is not something to do when you need to use your PC for something important.

TP

I've just installed a PlusTV Hybrid pci tuner but can't receive any freeview channels (it is available through Virgin Cable in my area). It is picking up 6 terrestial channels. I've tried setting it to cable/antena and digital/analog without success.
Any help would be appreciated
tia

You don't mention what model tuner you have, Is it designed to operate on a Virgin Cable input.

It sounds as though your are picking up the RF channels, are the 6 channels thatyou can get digital or analouge? Have you got a good enough aerial to receive the digital freeview signal?

It says HERE you might need to re-tune.

There are more Troubleshooting guides at the bottom of the page.

And of course, a Virgin Cable input signal is going to need a Virgin Cable digibox (with possibly a special Virgin Cable Freeview viewing card).

I Googled and found the following:

Freeview can only be recieved via a Freeview box connected to an antenna.

Freesat can be recieved two ways, one via a new Freesat box connected to a dish pointing to the Astra satellite or second by a Sky digibox with a Sky Freesat card pointing to the same satellite (cost about 20 or so).

The Virgin Media cable coming into your house can only produce tv pictures via a VM box with a valid M/L/XL subscription and card.

The difference in technology makes it impossible any other way
Freeview = DVB-T
Freesat = DVB-S
Cable = DVB-C

Also on a final note it's against the VM Terms and Conditions to attach anything to your cable that isn't supplied or approved by Virgin Media.

So you are in for a stuffing, matey. Stand by to get stuffed by a Media Virgin. :-)

Hope you get one like those on the TV advert where the Virgin Trolley Dollies are jaunting along with the airline captain. Phwoar!. ;-)

thanks for your replies. I'll check out the links you provide.
the card is: TW/UK DVBT-210. In its bumf it suggests that it will receive freeview.

In our town Virgin supply the six basic analog channels (2 X ITV, bbc etc) to all houses in a decoded format for free. No box is needed, the cable feeds direct into the rf tv slot. It is these channels which I'm getting. You only need a decoder (STB) if you wish to subscribe to the other Virgin stuff. In fact we're not supposed to put up aerials anywhere in the Town although many who get pissed off with VM put up Sky dishes.

It is my understanding that freeview is supplied through the same cable but needs a separate box for decoding the signal. I was hoping that this card would decode these signals.

You don't live in a typical area so I couldn't guess whether or not you are receiving a standard Freeview RF signal.

Either try to get some info out of Virgin or find out if any of your neighbours can get freeview either on a modern TV or a standard box. Or you could spend 15 on a freeview box and see if it works.

Thanks again.
I can't find any info on VM site but nothing new about that. Will probably email them.
Will also visit someone who gets freeview. However I'm totally confident it's being fed through the cable.
It looks like the mistake I'm making is to expect the card to decode the signal.

The card will only be able to decode the signal if it is the same type of RF signal that is used for the terrestial digital broadcasts. I don't know whether or not that is the case, but the post by ExcecLine suggests that it may be different.

In execline's post: Freeview = DVB-T
On the box the card came in: watch, pause, record analog TV and digital terrestial TV (DVB-T).

I've just been to see someone who's getting freeview via the cable and a VM supplied box. I'll get on to them and see if the signal has to be turned on or some such.

From ExecLines post which quotes from the Freeview website.

The difference in technology makes it impossible any other way
Freeview = DVB-T
Freesat = DVB-S
Cable = DVB-C

You are presumably on cable and therefore need a DVB-C box.

If any of your neighbours can get freeview with a standard modern TV or a standard digi box then your card should work if they need the VM box then it won't work unless you plug it into a standard TV aerial.