cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 17:02
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made an acceptable profit on AAPL/GOOG so have banked same ...... markets remain unconvinced and disinclined to move north, so felt like a prudent move
chuckles
- 11 Jun 2012 17:50
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Time to go long
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 20:02
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hmm ..... poor call so far this evening, though that is only a few hours
cynic
- 11 Jun 2012 20:57
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ouch! .... a really nasty late sell-off ..... 1st thing this morning cash dow was +175; as we close tonight, it's -145 ...... like i said, glad i banked a bit of profit earlier this evening
chuckles
- 11 Jun 2012 21:15
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Poor call, why? As a trade it was 30 points or so in profit and was closed out at break even. It's not rocket science but time To reassess.
HARRYCAT
- 11 Jun 2012 21:18
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All about Spain now I presume? Seems absurd that at the open everyone is saying how good it is that Spain have obtained a bailout and then reality sets in and half way through the day everyone realises that yet another bailout isn't going to work! No logic at all, imo.
skinny
- 12 Jun 2012 05:36
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If ever there was a case of rueing with hindsight - yesterday was it - I'm just annoyed with myself that I didn't make more of it.
cynic
- 12 Jun 2012 07:03
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very surprisingly (to me), ftse looking to open effectively unchanged
chuckles is clearly a very clever chap indeed .... even if he made no money on last night's escapade, he did unbelievably well ..... i am currently out of rhythm with the indices - i.e. if i traded them, i'ld have the timing wrong even if the general direction right - so have pretty much stopped trading them for now
ahoj
- 12 Jun 2012 07:43
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Cynic,
The number of companies has been reducing over the last five years, but the demand and population has been rising.
Many of these companies are like gold now and worth much higher than these prices. The fall has been based on "fear", much of it unjustified.
Davai
- 12 Jun 2012 12:16
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Not sure how this will play out, but further to the previous chart, things are going according to plan. I am looking for two touchpoints one for a flag for a long set-up (blue line), but i also think we will build a bigger one for a short play later (red line)
I'm fairly certain that we have just seen a 5w move long and printing the abc that i expected as per the last chart. The very least we can expect therefore is another 5w move north once the corrective move finishes...
cynic
- 12 Jun 2012 14:08
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peccavi! ...... have had a small dabble long dow at 12446 on the basis that europe did not fall o'night and has had a modestly successful morning
chuckles
- 12 Jun 2012 19:21
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cynic - 12 Jun 2012 07:03 - 8353 of 8356
chuckles is clearly a very clever chap indeed .... even if he made no money on last night's escapade, he did unbelievably well .....
Yes cynic, you should say clever, but then I have given you three trades, of which two banked 100 plus points each and the third a few.
I only post on here cos I'am a fan of davais (and then) from another site. Mind you, all this elliot wave stuff does make me chuckle.
PS You might want to consider buying some squids as opposed to green backs, but wait a bit first mind.
cynic
- 12 Jun 2012 19:57
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thanks, but i pretty much follow my own inclination and have never understood trading forex and have always avoided .... btw, i have also know davai for a number of years
Davai
- 13 Jun 2012 08:30
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There's a strong possibility of us having been in an irregular 4th corrective wave, of which we may have finished at the high on Sunday night. The drop and subsequent rebound therefore would be Waves 1&2 of the next move down. If so we might be getting close to the turn now and things might start to look horrible again soon...
We are sat on the 50% retrace right now, i will run a few fibs in a mo to try to get a better picture. The FTSE version of above looks far more obvious.
*Edit*
Christ, as unlikely as it looked, i am now sure the above is correct. Wave 'B' is 200% of 'A' and wave 'C' is 261.8% (very popular) length of 'A'. In my opinion we have several hundred points to drop over the coming couple of weeks...
HARRYCAT
- 13 Jun 2012 08:39
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Lots of 'mights' in there. Can we have a few more 'definitely wills' please? ;o)
Davai
- 13 Jun 2012 08:43
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Just edited the above Harry! ^^^
But you do need to read the caveat on my thread! Its all just an opinion based on my experience. I actually don't trade this stuff freestyle, i use a system which although relies on the overall direction being correct, is on a much shorter time frame. HH's and LL's is all that ultimately matters!
skinny
- 13 Jun 2012 08:52
- 8362 of 21973
Enter Brucie stage left :-)
Davai
- 13 Jun 2012 08:54
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I can't give the game away, but here's an example;
First the HH, then the abc pullback to form a flag. If it breaks in a certain way, i get a trigger and can work out my target which is always a Risk:Reward of 1:1, but very high probability. From entry, you can see we took a little 'heat' but just a standard retest of the flagline before going up to target;
HARRYCAT
- 13 Jun 2012 09:08
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Just teasing Davai! Keep going and don't mind me! Always interested in other's statagies.
Chris Carson
- 13 Jun 2012 09:15
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Fabulous Davai, any chance of posting your entry,target and stop just to be certain mate :O)